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Derailment expected to delay evening Metra trains
October 22, 2009 10:35 AM | No Comments | UPDATED STORY

Several Metra trains to and from Orland Park have been canceled this morning because of a freight train derailment south of Union Station. (Heather Charles/Chicago Tribune)
Evening rush-hour delays are expected on Metra's Southwest trains because of a freight train that derailed south of Union Station this morning.

Metra has cancelled four midday trains on the Southwest line and are planning to reroute evening trains through a rail yard and around the derailment site, delaying the trains at least 30 minutes.
"We'll have to use this complicated procedure to get the trains out of Union Station," Metra spokesman Meg Reile said. "It involves using alternate tracks through a rail yard."

The Union Pacific freight train derailed around 8 a.m. as it was leaving a rail yard near 18th Street. No one was hurt, but the train was leaking fluid into the Chicago River and a hazardous materials alert was called, according to the Chicago Fire Department.

Metra has been told it could take 12 hours to clear. It could take less time, but Reile said Metra decided to cancel four trains as a precaution and warn commuters of probable delays this evening.

"They have to clear the derailment, then assess if there was any damage and then fix whatever was damaged," Reile said.

The Southwest line carries 30 trains a day, 15 outbound from Union Station and 15 inbound from Manhattan.

The cancelled trains are No. 807 scheduled to depart Union Station at 8:35 a.m.; No. 811 scheduled to depart Union Station at 10:35 a.m.; No. 822 scheduled to depart 179th at 9:58 a.m.; No. 826 scheduled to depart 179th at 11:58 a.m.

Two other trains -- 812 and 818 -- were stopped at 21st for up to an hour before being rerouted to Union Station, Reile said.

At least six evening trains are expected to be delayed 30 minutes. They leave Union Station between 4:30 p.m. and 6:58 p.m.

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I'm off today, haha. I imagine they are having to re-route trains through Landers yard. That is the Norfolk Southern line.
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Correction, if it is just south of Union, I am guessing they are running through Canal Street, run by Rail Link.
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pffffffft........I take the Heritage Corridore. I worked till 10pm last night and got up at 4am to get to work this morning. Now It looks like my train is running late! I won't even be home till 7-8 if I'm lucky!!!

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SouthWest Service Modified Schedule

October 22, 2009

Due to a Union Pacific Railroad freight train derailment at 21st Street, the afternoon and evening service on the SouthWest Service Line will be modified for today.

The following modified outbound schedule for trains departing Chicago Union Station on October 22, 2009, will be in effect.

Train Chicago Union Station Departure Time Arrival at Outlying Stations Approximately
#819 2:40 p.m. 45 - 60 minutes late
#823 (will go to 179th) 4:30 p.m. 45 - 60 minutes late
#825 5:00 p.m. 45 - 60 minutes late
#829 5:40 p.m. 45 - 60 minutes late
#831 6:15 p.m. 45 - 60 minutes late
#833 6:58 p.m. 45 - 60 minutes late
#839 9:50 p.m. 45 - 60 minutes late
#841 11:40 p.m. 45 - 60 minutes late

Train #827, scheduled to depart CUS at 5:18 p.m. and Train #837, scheduled to depart CUS at 8:10 p.m., will not operate today.

Train #834, normally scheduled to depart 179th Street Station at 4:01 p.m., is expected to depart approximately 45 minutes late and incur additional delays enroute. The following inbound trains will be departing all outlying stations on time but will arrive at Chicago Union Station 45 to 60 minutes late: Train #838, scheduled to depart 179th Street Station at 6:55 p.m. and Train #840, scheduled to depart 179th Street Station at 8:25 p.m.

Train #830, scheduled to depart Manhattan at 2:25 p.m., Train #836, scheduled to depart 153rd Street Station at 5:44 p.m. and Train #842, scheduled to depart 179th Street Station at 9:47 p.m., will not operate for today.

Commuters riding the SouthWest Service may want to consider riding the Rock Island as alternate transportation.

Metra apologizes for any inconvenience.

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I'll get the skinny on what happened tomorrow. Or Eclipse may know.
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Heritage Corridor All outbound trains on the Heritage Corridor are expected to depart Chicago Union Station at their regularly scheduled times today. However, due to the freight derailment at 21st Street, passengers should expect delays of 45 to 60 minutes en route to outlying stations. Metra apologizes for any inconvenience.

Rock Island Main Line Busing to SouthWest Service Due to an earlier freight derailment that has caused a service disruption on the SouthWest Service the following is an alternate means of transportation for SouthWest Service commuters. Beginning with Rock Island District Train #405, departing LaSalle Street station at 2:55 p.m. and ending with Rock Island District Train #527, departing LaSalle Street at 8:45 p.m., there will be buses provided at 80th Avenue for commuters traveling to 143rd and 153rd Streets stations. There will also be buses provided at Hickory Creek for commuters traveling to 179th Street. Commuters wishing to utilize the shuttle bus must detrain at the appropriate station and board the buses.

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they said they were moving couple "engine" trains and one got away, and the outside contractor that did the track switching (switched the tracks) and the train derailed on da bridge.
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Reliable source told me an engine "rolled away" from a RailLink crew. Non union contractor railroad FTL.

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Reliable source told me an engine "rolled away" from a RailLink crew. Non union contractor railroad FTL.

Someone will be getting some time off.
Right. Cuz the union does such a better job.
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Right. Cuz the union does such a better job.
they would of had 5 guys standing around to watch at least

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Seems a engine consist was being built, and no hand brakes were applied. The consist rolled away and hit a derail. They were going at a pretty good clip, and went on the main line, and hit the bridge. That is my unofficial report, that cannot be held against me in any way.

I'll go back to my previous statement. Someone is getting some time off.
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I guess the link doesn't work?

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Food for thought. The derail these engines hit was an automatic derail (has now been replaced by a permanent derail). The derail automaticially went up when the bridge was raised. By luck, the bridge was about to go up, so the derail was up when the engines rolled over it and the bridge was still there. If it would have been two minutes after, the engines would have been in the canal or on top of the boat that they were raising the bridge for. 30 seconds earlier, 3.2 million pounds of locomotives would have rolled (gaining speed) all the way to Union Station. Thank God it happened the way it did.
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Food for thought. The derail these engines hit was an automatic derail (has now been replaced by a permanent derail). The derail automaticially went up when the bridge was raised. By luck, the bridge was about to go up, so the derail was up when the engines rolled over it and the bridge was still there. If it would have been two minutes after, the engines would have been in the canal or on top of the boat that they were raising the bridge for. 30 seconds earlier, 3.2 million pounds of locomotives would have rolled (gaining speed) all the way to Union Station. Thank God it happened the way it did.

i'm assuming the engineer didn't see the red signal?


And how far back are the derailes located? say a train is going 50mph? will that slow the train to prevent a major accident?


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depends on the current speed and weight of the train. That is what determines stopping distance.

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depends on the current speed and weight of the train. That is what determines stopping distance.
therefore, a derailment mechanism is useless.
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therefore, a derailment mechanism is useless.
Not useless as a derailment system can stop it sooner than the weight/speed formula would if it was upright.

Throw that bitch on its side and it stops sooner.

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Not useless as a derailment system can stop it sooner than the weight/speed formula would if it was upright.

Throw that bitch on its side and it stops sooner.
is this like the

a car can stop in less distance than a motorcycle?
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is this like the

a car can stop in less distance than a motorcycle?
Put a rail car on its side (or simply off the track) and it changed the formula for stopping distance because it is no longer a metal wheel on a metal track.

What part of that visualization do you not understand?

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is this like the

a car can stop in less distance than a motorcycle?
More like an area of friction thing... More area with more friction = quicker stop.

And I think you got that motorcycle/car thing a little backwards.

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Put a rail car on its side (or simply off the track) and it changed the formula for stopping distance because it is no longer a metal wheel on a metal track.

What part of that visualization do you not understand?
ya, just like i said. a car vs a motorcycle. two different things. a car stops quicker cause it has a larger surface area for friction than a motorcycle
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