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So I was at a friends house last week and he had a pretty sweet HTPC setup (boxee with a dinovo mini keyboard) running off a netbook with hdmi outs

I got to thinking about doing the same when I got home but after a bit of looking it seems the boxee box should be out in november for about 50$ more than the cost of the keyboard alone.

What do you guys think of this?

http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/b...e-world-video/

The last HTPC I built was back in 2000 out of a shuttle. I think this would be a lot more slick, cheaper, and possibly user friendly enough my MIL could use it with the kids movies

Looks like it's gonna run at 199$
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Early estimates say 179-199$. Time will tell if it works well when it hits the market or if it hits it's delivery date. Form factor is shit.

I looked hard at this but decided I didn't want to wait and I got the popbox instead. It's still very much beta from a firmware aspect but it's doing well with the media I've thrown at it.

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you were precisely who i was hoping to hear from

last i looked at your popbox thread you seemed to be leaning towards sending it back
amazon reviews are sitting at like 1.5 stars..

and the boxee interface at least on a pc was pretty awesome. I am still not sure it's simple enough for my mother in law (she actively resists learning anything new) but.. I think it will work for anyone up to her level of forced and intentional incompetence

It also does Netflix - not that I really need another device to do that, but to be honest it does it a lot better than the bluray player does (main thing is it can search and add from device)
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We'll have to wait till it hits market before we can decide. Clearly it looks good as it's based off the XBMC architecture and the Boxxee software has been available for a while so it's pretty well hammered out. But creating an appliance type box for the home market and making it work well is a totally different animal. Popbox undercuts it on price too, and it's simple enough that my wife figured out how to use it without me ever showing her(came home from work and she was watching 101 Dalmatians with the kids on it).

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What else do these machines do besides play media from subscribed services?

Why would someone want to spend $200 for something their Macbook can already do with $30 accessories?
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What else do these machines do besides play media from subscribed services?

Why would someone want to spend $200 for something their Macbook can already do with $30 accessories?
The obvious answer is we don't all have a $1000 macbook.


These boxes are primarily designed to play media from local resources(usb, network, etc), subscribed services are secondary and not always supported.

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What else do these machines do besides play media from subscribed services?

Why would someone want to spend $200 for something their Macbook can already do with $30 accessories?

from boxee on Vimeo.

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from boxee on Vimeo.

Still not convinced.

Wow, first demo video that does not show a smokin hot wife.
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Still not convinced.

Wow, first demo video that does not show a smokin hot wife.
long and short of it is while I am thinking about getting a new laptop.. and maybe even stepping over to the dark side and getting a mac.. Do I want to have my 2k laptop tied to the tv 24/7 in case someone wants to watch it?

Or do I want to use a cheapo laptop computer and this software for free? or... buy a cheap device to do it.

Remember at it's core this is a free app you can run on a pc running basically whatever OS you want.

but when I started pricing out building a tiny little HTPC I saw they had a device coming out soon. The keyboard my buddy was using (which really sealed it all together nice) was 150$ - or I could buy the entire thing in this device for <200 setup w remote

here is the remote he has - for anyone doing HTPC this is pretty slick
http://www.logitech.com/en-us/keyboa...d/devices/3848

Not trying to sell you on anything - different solutions fit different needs. I imagine my needs are much different than yours (ie I can stick 300 baby einsteins / leapfrog dvds on this thing and not have a pile of them being used as frisbees as is currently happening

He was running his over wifi from a nas - playing 8gb mkv 1080p dvd rips with 0 slowdown and only a couple seconds of buffer. I was impressed

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+ they have an iphone app remote control

http://itunes.apple.com/app/boxee-re...305171838?mt=8

but sorry.. not seeing android yet... probably will have one soon though I imagine
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Get the god damn MAC already. Trust me, the only thing you'll regret is why you didn't get it earlier.
using a mac as a media streamer for your tv is about the dumbest advice I've ever seen. jesus.

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using a mac as a media streamer for your tv is about the dumbest advice I've ever seen. jesus.
I did not suggest it solely as a media streamer. I recommended it as a laptop for general use. However it does make a great media streamer, but obviously not if that's the only or primary purpose.
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it's a great laptop if you need a laptop. However when it comes to streaming media to your TV it's not your best choice by a long shot. The best choice would be a custom HTPC but they're expensive and not as intuitive to use as the plethora of hardware based streamers currently available.

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You could spend a little more and get a nettop with ion graphics and have a full windows box for boxee, emulators, whatever...
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That was the original plan. Actually I already have a pc right next to the tv that would be the file server for it. I really haven't wanted to add another pc to this mess until I spent a few days using his. But the thought that it would probably run me 400 to 600$ to build out something decent (not to mention time) then 150 for a nice tiny remote keyboard... And 200$ for the full deal started to look better. I have done htpc a few times (like I said earlier I built a shuttle htpc back in 2001 or so) and it's come a long way but its still more cumbersome than purpose built electronics.

That said I thought boxee did a nice job bridging the gap.
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you can build a pretty solid nettop for around 3 bills, without software. Pirate w7 like everyone else does and run xbmc on top of it. Slick, and still more money than a dedicated streamer especially once you add on extras like a remote but more flexible too. Though a lot of the current streamers will do more than just stream your content, some have torrent clients and other goodies and use far less power than a PC.

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you can build a pretty solid nettop for around 3 bills, without software. Pirate w7 like everyone else does and run xbmc on top of it. Slick, and still more money than a dedicated streamer especially once you add on extras like a remote but more flexible too. Though a lot of the current streamers will do more than just stream your content, some have torrent clients and other goodies and use far less power than a PC.
wasn't really looking for another flexible do everything system.
I have a pc there but it's slow and I planned on using it just for dumb disk and backup (it acts as a server and backs everything up to Mozy)

I have a lot of the other functions in other devices around and to be honest never use them for that (such as bt on the nas devices)

looking forward to checking it out when it comes out
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using a mac as a media streamer for your tv is about the dumbest advice I've ever seen. jesus.
If I'm not mistaken that's what Mac Mini is for. But a specialized box should be better.

I wonder if you gents heard about TvixBox: http://www.tvixbox.com/

Also, what do you think about the Dune boxes: http://dune-hd.com/hd_players/111-du...prime-3.0.html?

I hear a lot of good about Dune... The only downside is that they are expensive. They do have a version without bluray drive, though.

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Wow the Dune looks pretty sweet
I'd heard of it before but never bothered to look.
400$ is actually a lot better price than I'd have guessed - so it's not really that overpriced
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I'd heard of it before but never bothered to look.
400$ is actually a lot better price than I'd have guessed - so it's not really that overpriced
Yeah, considering the built in Bluray drive it's not even that bad. From what I heard it can play everything without hiccup. I do have a custom built HTPC, but I'm kicking myself for not getting something like Dune. I don't want to fiddle with this shit anymore, I just want it to work.

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Yeah, considering the built in Bluray drive it's not even that bad. From what I heard it can play everything without hiccup. I do have a custom built HTPC, but I'm kicking myself for not getting something like Dune. I don't want to fiddle with this shit anymore, I just want it to work.
Dune is where it is at. Its very impressive for its price. I need to make sure it does netflix streaming.
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Yeah, considering the built in Bluray drive it's not even that bad. From what I heard it can play everything without hiccup. I do have a custom built HTPC, but I'm kicking myself for not getting something like Dune. I don't want to fiddle with this shit anymore, I just want it to work.
This is exactly where I am with this whole thing.
My wife is brilliant - she has a very technical job, manages technical people, can program works with firewalls and is in charge of incredibly complex IT security stuff.

At home it took her like 2 years to figure out our old school directtv tivo

No way I am bringing a HTPC into the mix - I don't mind helping or using the remote for her (who wouldn't want a wife who makes sure her husband holds the remote?) but I hate doing "phone support" and I know that's what a HTPC would become - that or she would refuse to use it..

Plus.. like you said - I just want it to work
not be one more thing I have to maintain
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Actually, looks like Dune HD Base is $350. The only difference is no Bluray drive. So if you already have a standalone Bluray player, it may be the way to go.

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for only 50 more I'd want to integrate it
good find
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still gonna hold out for the boxee for now to see how it turns out - i like how it integrates with vimeo and every other online service as well as local files
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good find
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still gonna hold out for the boxee for now to see how it turns out - i like how it integrates with vimeo and every other online service as well as local files
Dune will do Netflix.

Future (free f/w upgrade): Netflix support (for the USA market)

I think I am going Dune, I just wish there was a local route for it.
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I think I am going Dune, I just wish there was a local route for it.
go take a look at all the boxee apps - it was rather slick how it handled them all.. That said this was on a htpc setup - who knows what the standalone will be like, but from the stuff out there already it looks like it will

I can wait a couple months to decide - it's summer... I don't need all the tv junk till it turns shitty out. So hopefully November is the date
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go take a look at all the boxee apps - it was rather slick how it handled them all.. That said this was on a htpc setup - who knows what the standalone will be like, but from the stuff out there already it looks like it will

I can wait a couple months to decide - it's summer... I don't need all the tv junk till it turns shitty out. So hopefully November is the date
If there was a blu ray/dvd drive I think I would be sold. But having it all integrated is a plus for me.
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