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Any opinions on E Readers?

Whos got one? Kindle, Nook, kobo, Sony etc... Any recommendations, or experience with any of these? Looking to pick one up soon.
Not completely sold on using an Ipad as a dedicated e reader, but I'm all ears.


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I bought the G/F a Kindle last Christmas..... mainly because I was getting pissed by the piles of crappy paper back books lying around the house.

It's easy to get books, very easy on the eyes to read, and if you want it as a replacement to reading paper books, its perfect. Battery life is spectacular. The electronic ink screen is really cool. And you can download books anywhere over the cell network (FREE FOR LIFE).

It can access the internet, but not well. It can play games, but not well. You can't "share" books between friends (at least not yet).

I also have an Ipad, and have used it for graphic novels and some reading. It's just like a computer monitor, no matter what the settings are, your eyes still get tired after awhile. It SUCKS for reading outside and battery life is about 10 hrs.

If you want a cheap replacement to massive piles of books, get the Kindle. If you want a do-it all device that you can also occasionally read a book with..... get the Ipad.
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you can share with up to 5 kindles as long as you use the same amazon account - but you have to trust the people I suppose

Wife and I share hers, I have kindle on iphone - she has a kindle and the bb app
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How is the Kindle at .pdf's ?

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How is the Kindle at .pdf's ?
it can be a bit of a pita
http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/custom...0375630&#email
you can copy them over via usb or email them to yourself

they charge like 15 cents a mb to email them (kind of stupid since it's supposed to be unlimited free)
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Ebook readers generally suck for PDFs, even the Kindle DX which was made just for that. Specifically for PDFs iPad is much better. Having said that, for regular books without many (color) illustrations, good eInk based ebook readers cannot be beat. Reading on a smartphone/ipad/notebook/netbook can't even compare. The main reason is that eInk displays don't have backlight and are much easier on the eyes than LED/LCD displays. They pretty much work like a regular paper... The other big plus is the battery life. 5000-8000 page turns is not unusual. You can read without recharging for a week or longer, depending on how much you read.

I've used Sony readers. The hardware is awesome, especially PRS-505. Thin, classy looking, solid, durable. The software sucks, though. It's slow (when opening a book the first time) and their software for syncing/managing books is a pain in the ass. Poor attempt at copying iTunes which is an abomination in itself. However, there are several open source/free solutions for that. It's not that big of a deal.

The other problem with Sony is that if you want to read books not in English, you need to reflash the reader with appropriate fonts. It's possible for Cyrillic/Russian, I'm not sure about any other languages.

Big plus of Sony is relative openness of formats. The native format was reverse engineered and there are converters for it from epub, fb2 and others. Sony supports epub natively as well now, which is great.

In short, I highly recommend their PRS-505 or comparable new models if you can deal with little software idiosyncrasies. I'm not so sure about the their touchscreen models, though, they seem to make the screens a bit blurry.

The other reader I've tried and absolutely loved is PocketBook 360. It's relatively expensive but the hardware/software is top notch. It's plastic, so not good as Sony's metal case, yet it's solid and definitely good enough. It's also compact and convenient to use. It supports a plethora of languages right out of the box, the UI is intuitive and you don't even need a software on your PC to sync it up - just connect to USB and it appears as a regular USB drive. Drag and drop files with books on to it and you are good to go. Awesome little device. When my almost 3 year old PRS-505 finally dies*, that's what I'm upgrading to.

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Forgot about important thing: book availability. That's where Kindle really shines. Sony also has a book store, they carry many titles, but it still doesn't even compare to Amazon. There is no book store for PocketBook, you have to get books from general ebook stores/Project Gutenberg/torrents. It's all possible, just depends on what you want. For some people, book availability on Amazon (especially for new titles) is the deciding factor.

Oh, and, finally, you can pretty much forget about anything else. Nook and other crap is not even worth looking at. iPad for PDFs (scientific/work docs), Kindle for book availability, plus Sony or Pocketbook 360 (their other models are not as great as 360). That's about it.

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i think the recent huge price drop for the kindle will help it a lot - I felt like such a chump paying almost 400 bucks for something with a palm pilot screen on it
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I got my fiancee a Sony eReader last Christmas and she loves it. We both preferred that it is more "open source" friendly, vs Amazon's proprietary format. Since she's taking some online classes which put all documentation into PDF format, PDF capabilities were a big selling point for us. Fracker already covered the other strengths of the Sony line.
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Another great reader from Sony: link.

According to the reviews, it uses the same eInk display as the new Kindle, new touch screen works great and doesn't impact text quality, plus the software was improved.

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Ebook readers generally suck for PDFs, even the Kindle DX which was made just for that. Specifically for PDFs iPad is much better. Having said that, for regular books without many (color) illustrations, good eInk based ebook readers cannot be beat. Reading on a smartphone/ipad/notebook/netbook can't even compare. The main reason is that eInk displays don't have backlight and are much easier on the eyes than LED/LCD displays. They pretty much work like a regular paper... The other big plus is the battery life. 5000-8000 page turns is not unusual. You can read without recharging for a week or longer, depending on how much you read.

I've used Sony readers. The hardware is awesome, especially PRS-505. Thin, classy looking, solid, durable. The software sucks, though. It's slow (when opening a book the first time) and their software for syncing/managing books is a pain in the ass. Poor attempt at copying iTunes which is an abomination in itself. However, there are several open source/free solutions for that. It's not that big of a deal.

The other problem with Sony is that if you want to read books not in English, you need to reflash the reader with appropriate fonts. It's possible for Cyrillic/Russian, I'm not sure about any other languages.

Big plus of Sony is relative openness of formats. The native format was reverse engineered and there are converters for it from epub, fb2 and others. Sony supports epub natively as well now, which is great.

In short, I highly recommend their PRS-505 or comparable new models if you can deal with little software idiosyncrasies. I'm not so sure about the their touchscreen models, though, they seem to make the screens a bit blurry.


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I read allot more now that I have the ereader and I just toss on PDFs that I find online of things i want to read.
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It's excellent for starting fires because it is much smaller and much easier to light due to its size and flammability. You can try using a fire log as well.
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It's excellent for starting fires because it is much smaller and much easier to light due to its size and flammability. You can try using a fire log as well.
That's kindling. Merit badge Fail.

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Damnit. No wonder I never made Eagle Scout. On another note though:

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cause to start burning; "The setting sun kindled the sky with oranges and reds"
So you use kindling to kindle.
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Great if you wanna just read books. If you want to do anything else like email, web, apps etc. Buy an iPad and download the free kindle app for reading




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e-ink screen is WAY better than lcd for reading. It really is damn close to real ink on real paper.

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I recently heard on the radio that unless you read 30 novels a year it's not really worth it, but I imagine if you travel a ton it would be.

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I recently heard on the radio that unless you read 30 novels a year it's not really worth it, but I imagine if you travel a ton it would be.
Dont forget the newspaper aspect of them! I can see them being worthwhile for folks on the train. Easier than walking to get the paper each morning and better for the environment

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Think they are worth it just for convenience even if you only read a few books a year. Say you download a few books from the web that are in pdf format. Your only option to read them is to print the whole thing out and put it in a binder, spending $30 on paper and ink or to put it on your computer and read it, lame. At least with the ebook you can kick back on the couch and read.

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yes. the library.

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These require that you be able to read...
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For pdf's I use the iBook reader on my iPad it is most excellent with them, the kindle app is what I use for reading books.

Then when I'm done I can send a few emails, check clsb and surf some porn. Can't do that with a kindle




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For pdf's I use the iBook reader on my iPad it is most excellent with them, the kindle app is what I use for reading books.

Then when I'm done I can send a few emails, check clsb and surf some porn. Can't do that with a kindle
Thread resurrection alert . I bought a Kindle 3 and after playing with it for a few days, I'm happy so far. Ergos could be a bit better, I keep accidentally pressing next page button. Hoping that a cover will fix that, I should get it tomorrow. I also miss the orientation sensor and page numbers, and I'd like it to be a bit more customizable. But it does what it is supposed to do very well and its firmware is light years ahead of Sony.

As far as ebook vs iPad... I can move from point A to point B in my van... it fits 4-6 people and a whole lot of stuff, including a motorcycle. It has heat and a roof and it is fine when it's cold and snowing. Yet, when I want enjoy it, I ride a motorcycle, plus a van will top out at 90. Same with the ebook reader - it's a highly specialized device meant to do one task, but do it very well. Once you try reading from eInk screen for a few days, you'll know what I mean. LCD/(x)LED doesn't compare.

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A friend bought the Color Nook from Barnes and Noble? Had it for a couple days and returned it. Got pissed with the fact the battery only lasted 6 -7 hours. LOVED the color display for magazines, but when reading a book, he was expecting days, if not weeks of battery life.

As Fracker said, the Kindle is perfect for what its made for.... reading a book. If you want a book replacement, get the Kindle.

If you want color, web page access, PDFs, etc. Get the iPad or another tablet, but realize battery life goes from weeks to hours.
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