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PC to HDTV Converter

I'm looking for a converter that will connect a PC to an HD television with a remote...basically making your PC act as a standard television. This is a gift for xmas, and there are LOTS of options out there. Looking for some recommendations to help sort through the pile.


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basically making your PC act as a standard television.
I'm confused, do you want to watch your pc stuff on your TV or your TV stuff on your PC?

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Do you want to use the PC as a TV tuner, or just to play movies? For either option, there are several accessories for Windows 7 based machines that will do that. The connection to the TV from the PC is an HDMI cable, or a DVI-D to HDMI cable. Audio connections are via a Dolby cable/toslink cable.

I've got a tuner card in one of my machines that I'll give you. Somewhere I have the remote that came with it, too. I have no idea about drivers, though.

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I want to play PC stuff on the big HDTV. My brother has ditched cable and is using his PC for everything. Standard HDMI connection I think is already in place, but I've seen a few converters around that allow you to use a remote and just make the whole process cleaner.

I just use an HDMI at home and walk up to the computer next to the television to play my videos...being as the PC is the sole source for television for him I'm looking for something to make everything more efficient/easier.

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If it's mainly files that he's playing and not streaming stuff I would recommend a media player. It's a lot easier to setup and manage. I have the Western Digital TV Plus which I like a lot. There are a few other models out there. You just share out the files and the media player can access them over the network.

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sounds like he just wants a remote.

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It's not a "remote" but I run a small BT keyboard for my PC hooked up to my TV.

I have this...or very similar but mine was in the $50 range?
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Yeah pretty much a remote system...unless there's anything else out there that makes the whole process work better. I call it a day with an HDMI cable, he's MUCH further along than I am.

He just made the switch to a PC only set up and he's a broke ass college student, so I just want to get him something that will help the setup function better.

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Just a note of caution. Image retention/burn-in is almost a non-issue these days with high end plasmas, but low end you may have some problems with burn-in displaying the still images that are present on most PC displays.

Then, I am not 100% sure about this, but with both plasma and LCD there is the issue of resolutions and it being hard to fit the computer display to the dimensions of a TV.

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It's not a "remote" but I run a small BT keyboard for my PC hooked up to my TV.

I have this...or very similar but mine was in the $50 range?
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...5706&CatId=537
I have that same one but in chrome case with black keys. It works great.

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I tested something similar to both the other links. And I can say without a doubt that the mouse pad on the keyboard that Kruz and I have is much much easier to move the mouse around. The arrow pad on both those logitechs is useless if you want to do stuff with any sort of urgency.

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Now this is what I'm talking about. I've just got to figure out for sure now what he's using right now (PC) so that I get something compatible.

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He will need a DVI to HDMI adapter. Or he will have to upgrade his video card to something at outputs HDMI.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...t=1#largeimage

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And some HDMI cable. Then it's just a matter of using the display options on the PC to fine tune the image on the TV.

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I am using a cable that has HDMI on one end and DVI-D on the other.
I think it was 8$ with free 2 day shipping on amazon (i have a prime account)
HDMI and DVI are basically the same transmission so it's lossless and cheap for the cables

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I am using a cable that has HDMI on one end and DVI-D on the other.
I think it was 8$ with free 2 day shipping on amazon (i have a prime account)
HDMI and DVI are basically the same transmission so it's lossless and cheap for the cables

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DVI does not support audio transmission and does not support HDCP, these are things to be aware of!! not all devices will play well with it.

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I am using a cable that has HDMI on one end and DVI-D on the other.
I think it was 8$ with free 2 day shipping on amazon (i have a prime account)
HDMI and DVI are basically the same transmission so it's lossless and cheap for the cables

this might be a bit long (3m)
http://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-H...1739379&sr=8-1
More versatile to get the adapter so you can use the cord for other devices as well.

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DVI does not support audio transmission and does not support HDCP, these are things to be aware of!! not all devices will play well with it.
I was aware of the no audio - but most people (myself included) have to split audio off if they need this cable as it is - I am running this directly to the tv and tos to the amp - sadly neither my tv or amp has hdmi (old stuff)

I was not aware of the lack of hdcp - that said do you think that is applicable here? I was merely referring to the signal.. As in converting HDMI to VGA = expensive and hugely problematic - where HDMI to DVI - generally cheap and no problem.

I see you are splitting hairs, but I thought we were talking for his particular need? (or did I miss something?)
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some devices, appleTV comes to mind, will not work with an HDMI to DVI converter due to the lack of a proper HDCP handshake. While you might get it to work, it's not supported.

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So what does all of this talk mean for me? What do I need to covertly find out from him as far as his existing set up?

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So what does all of this talk mean for me? What do I need to covertly find out from him as far as his existing set up?
Find out what operating system he is running. Then find out what his video card outputs - VGA, DVI, HDMI.

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So what does all of this talk mean for me? What do I need to covertly find out from him as far as his existing set up?
if he is trying to hook up a pc to a tv it's not applicable.

that little tiny keyboard I posted I found a little difficult to use in the few days I was at my friends house, but his kids bopped around it effortlessly so perhaps it's just a matter of getting used to.

You could use a converter or a premade cable - I went with the cable as I can't stand plugging into things that plug into things (and having it dangle even further off the side of the plasma) and at 8$ total cost.. I was able to afford the cable as a single use thing. Either way would work.

A nice HDMI video card would probably be a pretty nice christmas gift though too
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if he is trying to hook up a pc to a tv it's not applicable.

that little tiny keyboard I posted I found a little difficult to use in the few days I was at my friends house, but his kids bopped around it effortlessly so perhaps it's just a matter of getting used to.

You could use a converter or a premade cable - I went with the cable as I can't stand plugging into things that plug into things (and having it dangle even further off the side of the plasma) and at 8$ total cost.. I was able to afford the cable as a single use thing. Either way would work.

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The OS does matter. It matters for the wireless keyboard. And it matters if he wants to buy him a new video card. Not all video cards are compatiable with all versions of windows. And additionally if he does go the new VC route, he will have to make sure the new VC fits his form factor, motherboard, and that his power supply has enough juice.

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Ok, things to find out...got it. I'll return with updated info later on-ski

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Ok, here's the low down as near as I can tell without being too obvious as to why I was asking.

He had an old tower built for him for specifically this purpose by a local repair shop downstate. He said it's not good enough to watch high end HD, but he can watch 720 and 1080 ok...but that's pushing it. He's got the tower hardwired to the router and networked to his laptop. He actually already has a remote, made by the same company that made the controllers for Wii, so it acts like a mouse on screen.

He said what he DOESN'T have is a video card...so that being said, what's the way to go for this application? He's running Windows XP Media Player. Anything else that might be worthwhile for this application?

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I run just a standard hdmi cable from the pc to the tv. I can use my tv as a second moniter and just stream whatever I want on it. I don't have a remote and honestly have no idea about that. Pretty much any video card you buy now has an hdmi port.

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Ok, here's the low down as near as I can tell without being too obvious as to why I was asking.

He had an old tower built for him for specifically this purpose by a local repair shop downstate. He said it's not good enough to watch high end HD, but he can watch 720 and 1080 ok...but that's pushing it. He's got the tower hardwired to the router and networked to his laptop. He actually already has a remote, made by the same company that made the controllers for Wii, so it acts like a mouse on screen.

He said what he DOESN'T have is a video card...so that being said, what's the way to go for this application? He's running Windows XP Media Player. Anything else that might be worthwhile for this application?

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For starters, you say the pc was made for a specific purpose. What was the purpose, it is not clear what you are saying. So not sure what else he would need to do what he wants to do. It sounds like he has everything he needs except the adapter and cable.

Second, he has to have some kind of video card. It might be onboard/integrated on the motherboard, but he does have one.

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It was built specifically for use with a television, as a media player. Sorry.

...and yeah, he has a video card, just a shitty one I guess. He said that would be one thing he would look at upgrading.

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