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Alright windows geeks.

I have having an annoying issue here. and yes its more annoying than those stupid ballons that keep poping up on the bottom right of my screen telling me things I dont care abut.

It has to do with my Nortel continuity vpn client software. I can be online just fine, then I load up a vpn session, things work great, but then my vpn session closes on its own and I cannot get back online at all (google etc) completely dead.

I cant repair connection., it still shows I have an IP, but cant get on the web. Whats the dealio?




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I can't help you with the network problem - sounds like it's an issue with the Nortel client, not Windows.

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Sounds like when connected to your VPN it's killing access to websites, you sure you're not still connected to your VPN when you're unable to access websites?

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Maybe do an ipconfig when it happens and post the results so we can see what's going on.

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balloons at the bottom? ya i figured out how to turn those off back in the days of windows 3.1

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Ping something external like 4.2.2.2 to see if it's actually network connectiviy lost or DNS lookup issues (since 'google etc' requires name resolution).

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Maybe do an ipconfig when it happens and post the results so we can see what's going on.
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It sounds like your VPN session is giving the machine an IP and a route for web surfing. WHen it crashes, it's not returning your routing to "normal" to allow you to surf

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The more important questions is, what the hell are you doing on a windows machine? I thought you and windows were like water and oil.
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Why the hell aren't you contacting your work IT staff for what is clearly a work related issue!

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I've seen this with both the SonicWALL VPN client and the Cisco VPN Client, by default they all seem to be set to route all traffic across the VPN when its established. Look through the settings there should be a way to disable it.

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I've seen this with both the SonicWALL VPN client and the Cisco VPN Client, by default they all seem to be set to route all traffic across the VPN when its established. Look through the settings there should be a way to disable it.
This type of setting can be configured by the client, but the head end can override it as well.

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what version of the nortel client are you using. probably buggy and you need a later version
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This type of setting can be configured by the client, but the head end can override it as well.
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Still happening. even after we switched to checkpoint vpn. it's weird, If I leave my system when I come back to it the next day all browsers are offline. but outlook and my vpn client can get internet access. my other work computer does not do this, and it's configured the same, with all the same software.

I'm really not thining its a vpn issue, because i can fire the computer up, not fire up vpn at all and it my browsers will still be offline the next day. reboot and everything is fine. but I dont want to have to reboot everyday, even though it's windows it should be able to be left on for more than 24 hours without going to shit right?




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Still happening. even after we switched to checkpoint vpn. it's weird, If I leave my system when I come back to it the next day all browsers are offline. but outlook and my vpn client can get internet access. my other work computer does not do this, and it's configured the same, with all the same software.

I'm really not thining its a vpn issue, because i can fire the computer up, not fire up vpn at all and it my browsers will still be offline the next day. reboot and everything is fine. but I dont want to have to reboot everyday, even though it's windows it should be able to be left on for more than 24 hours without going to shit right?
there is a fundamental difference between should, and can.

It's just a reboot. Just do it if it solves issues.

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and to go along with the theme of the thread have you contacted your IT staff there since January about this?

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yes, and my IT staff is about as useless as tits on a bull. clearly they are in India reading off a flow chart.

Ya i know it's just a reboot. but it shouldn't have to be that way. I know I bust on windows a lot, but there should be no reason it needs to be rebooted everyday, sometimes twice a day. My other windows machine goes a month or so before rebooting for an update or some other reason. And my mac can go for years. this thing is only a year old HP machine and its all hosed up?




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its still acting exactly as described in the first post?

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Symptoms yes, but does not matter if I am using VPN or not. I can reboot, never fire VPN up at all, come back the next day or 8 hours later and the browsers have lost thier connection.

Also I did check device manager and check to see if my network card was set to go to sleep and it is not.




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They (your vpn client crap) are setting your default route (and possibly DNS lookups) to the VPN tunnel. Rebooting clears it back to normal.

Typically, it should set it back when you close the vpn client.... but that's not always a guarantee. Looks like this is what's fucking you up.


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They (your vpn client crap) are setting your default route (and possibly DNS lookups) to the VPN tunnel. Rebooting clears it back to normal.

Typically, it should set it back when you close the vpn client.... but that's not always a guarantee. Looks like this is what's fucking you up.
even if I'm not initiating a vpn session. theres some days I dont use it as not all our apps are behind the firewall.




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oh and one more thing, my damn mouse speed changes everytime I reboot.




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I use checkpoint vpn and I never have an issue wtih it. The only time I have internet access issues is if I'm connceting to a wireless point; sometimes it does what you are describing, Tony.
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oh and one more thing, my damn mouse speed changes everytime I reboot.
Did you install your mouse hardware or just let windows figure it out?
Also, if you disconnect your mouse before you shut down, the the comptuer switches to thinking you are using the trackpad (i'm assuming you are on a laptop) and so then when you reboot with your mouse hooked up it gets wonky. That used to happen to me on my old POS laptop but my new POS laptop seems to work fine on this issue.
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is it a M$ mouse too? lol

I just had to send back a batch of M$ wireless mice that straight out of the box would only scroll left/right, no up/down.

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Did you install your mouse hardware or just let windows figure it out?
Also, if you disconnect your mouse before you shut down, the the comptuer switches to thinking you are using the trackpad (i'm assuming you are on a laptop) and so then when you reboot with your mouse hooked up it gets wonky. That used to happen to me on my old POS laptop but my new POS laptop seems to work fine on this issue.
Mouse is connected to my docking station so that may make sense. might be a difference from when I'm docked to not docked. I have a docking staiton with dual monitors, my mouse, printer, ethernet etc all comes through the docking station.




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what are you using for a net browser?

and when your browser cant connect can you ping something public, like google/yahoo?

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