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So I am thinking about starting my own ISP in the Oak Brook area, Comcast is one stupid bitch. I could roughly have 300+ customers, in one block, a tons of apartments, doing some research around the area.

My question what kind of hardware would I need? I am looking to just supply internet, no mail, no hosting of any kind.
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So I am thinking about starting my own ISP in the Oak Brook area, Comcast is one stupid bitch. I could roughly have 300+ customers, in one block, a tons of apartments, doing some research around the area.

My question what kind of hardware would I need? I am looking to just supply internet, no mail, no hosting of any kind.
First up, you will need to run cables throughout your block to each home.

Throw in some POPs / Exchanges

The you will need to create core layer of equipment -- very expensive Routers and Multi-layer switches. You will then need to contract with An Internet Exchange to use an exchange, or alternatively invest millions in starting your own. At the internet exchange you will route traffic between your ISP and other ISPs.

You will also need to buy a block of IP address from interNIC to use around your network.

You will also need to hire numerous engineers to set up all this for you and maintain it after.

So set aside a mil or two.

Good luck bro!!
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First up, you will need to run cables throughout your block to each home.

Throw in some POPs / Exchanges

The you will need to create core layer of equipment -- very expensive Routers and Multi-layer switches. You will then need to contract with An Internet Exchange to use an exchange, or alternatively invest millions in starting your own. At the internet exchange you will route traffic between your ISP and other ISPs.

You will also need to buy a block of IP address from interNIC to use around your network.

You will also need to hire numerous engineers to set up all this for you and maintain it after.

So set aside a mil or two.

Good luck bro!!
I wasn't thinking about do it to homes, I was gonna do it to each apartment which is already wired with CAT 6.
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I wasn't thinking about do it to homes, I was gonna do it to each apartment which is already wired with CAT 6.
OHHH! Why didnt you say That before?

Ok, let me make the changes to my original statement in yellow to reflect what you added...


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First up, you will need to run cables throughout your block to each apartment.

Throw in some POPs / Exchanges

The you will need to create core layer of equipment -- very expensive Routers and Multi-layer switches. You will then need to contract with An Internet Exchange to use an exchange, or alternatively invest millions in starting your own. At the internet exchange you will route traffic between your ISP and other ISPs.

You will also need to buy a block of IP address from interNIC to use around your network.

You will also need to hire numerous engineers to set up all this for you and maintain it after.

So set aside a mil or two.

Good luck bro!!
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So I am thinking about starting my own ISP in the Oak Brook area, Comcast is one stupid bitch. I could roughly have 300+ customers, in one block, a tons of apartments, doing some research around the area.

My question what kind of hardware would I need? I am looking to just supply internet, no mail, no hosting of any kind.


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Ok, let me make the changes to my original statement in yellow to reflect what you added...





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There is a town a few towns over from where I used to live in Germany, they did their own ISP setup since T-Com ( German Telephone company who owns T-mobile,...) would not offer any decent speed. It was for T-com just simply too expensive to run all the wiring to allow High-Speed and still get a ROI.
Long story short... I belive they spend more than 3 Mil € on the network and T-Com took care of the patching into their Network for free since they saved a ton of €...

so I'm gonna subscribe to see where this goes...

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If you're asking these questions. Move on. I don't think it's a viable business. Saturated market and you don't have the resources.

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^ No kidding. I worked at an ISP startup 15 years ago and even then it never turned a profit. You have no idea about the red-tape involved in just getting to the point were you could transfer the first bit of data for customer #1.

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^ No kidding. I worked at an ISP startup 15 years ago and even then it never turned a profit. You have no idea about the red-tape involved in just getting to the point were you could transfer the first bit of data for customer #1.
Same here, except it was 18 yrs ago. I would never think about going down that road again, even if it's all someone else's money. When it transformed into a commodity market, it was dead as a money maker... now it's beyond commodity market into common place.

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But I do miss the small local ISP's of the 80's and 90's. Never have received as good a service as I did from the old MCS Net. Megsinet was good, too.

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Same here, except it was 18 yrs ago. I would never think about going down that road again, even if it's all someone else's money. When it transformed into a commodity market, it was dead as a money maker... now it's beyond commodity market into common place.

But hey, don't let our experience cloud the land of opportunity... go for it!

so do you know how to engineer all this crap. would be interested in just knowing how it all started after it was just a university network.


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so do you know how to engineer all this crap. would be interested in just knowing how it all started after it was just a university network.


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That is so ironic. I went to college with Captain Stubing.

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so do you know how to engineer all this crap. would be interested in just knowing how it all started after it was just a university network.
I remember in HS we had "gopher"
Yes, I do.

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