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external hard drive?

I need to recover some files from a hard drive on an old laptop, and would also like to condense my music into one place. Any suggestions on brand, place to purchase, and size?

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I'm open to bigger is better. LOL I found a 2TB external drive for $90, but I'm not sure about the brand or quality

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...&Sku=S130-9000

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I also found this one http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...&Sku=M261-8244

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I need at least 300 gig, and I'm more concerned about realibility than size/price.

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1tb should do just fine. Stay away from the half sizes like 1.5tb as they have a higher failure rate. Anything with a WD western digital drive or seagate drive is fine. The WD passports are nice.
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I did the external drive thing for a while and eventually all the drives failed. Do some sort of raid back up or get two drives.

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d-r-o-b-o drobo. lol

In all seriousness a raided type setup will cost more to get going but if you need reliability that is the way to go. There are a few raided NAS type plug and play boxes as well that are nice. I've been looking into this for years and just haven't pulled the trigger but as I'm taking more and more pictures it is becoming more important to me to have a decent backup somewhere.

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I would recommend Synology - allows you to stream all your music to your android/iphone and pictures to android/iphone. The other feature that is nice is that you can tell if the power in your house is on or off based on if the server responds

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I did the external drive thing for a while and eventually all the drives failed. Do some sort of raid back up or get two drives.
This.

Backing up important things to a SINGLE place, is begging for catastrophic data loss. External hard drives are no more reliable than internal ones, and quality can be hit or miss. I've had hard drives last me upwards to 10 years, and others that crap out after a single year.

If your data is important to you, back it up in multiple places... such as an external hard drive for daily use, DVDs, mirrored hard drives, or even various cloud services like Amazon.
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I would recommend Synology - allows you to stream all your music to your android/iphone and pictures to android/iphone. The other feature that is nice is that you can tell if the power in your house is on or off based on if the server responds
I've looked into them as well and they make some nice NAS devices. I just always have the damn drobo song in my head.

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Synology devices are nice and can be done cheaply to for personal use. 200 for a duel drive inclosure plus the HDDs.

Caution with some western digital external drives is some of there units have a non standard usb cable. (Not a issue till lost or broken).
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I have most of my pictures backed up onto dvd's as well. The biggest issues is backing up my music, and pics from this now dead laptop. I don't want to put it all on my current laptop, and would like to have a chance to put those photos onto dvds as well. I leanrned my lesson about not having doubles of my photos from this. And like I said I now archive them onto disks, and have them in a nice little cd case labeled and at grabbing distance if I ever need them.

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Synology devices are nice and can be done cheaply to for personal use. 200 for a duel drive inclosure plus the HDDs.

Caution with some western digital external drives is some of there units have a non standard usb cable. (Not a issue till lost or broken).
+99999 I have one and its fantastic. It also streams music movies and photos to your iPhone or android device.


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I'm lost on everything posted in the Synology reply.

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I think your best bet would be going with seagate. If you pay attention to what model you buy most come with a 5 year warranty. However if you want safe keeping of your data you need a RAID setup or another drive to clone the original one to. It's worth spending the extra $ then loosing your data/files.

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Synology device is a hard drive enclosure that will hold multiply hard drives and give you added features such as streaming music/video right form the device. With two drive you can mirror your data (basic raid) if one drive fails replace drive data is still there. (mirror will not protect agains corrupt files and viruses or deleted files). two drives going bad at same time is rare, Power surges can take unit and drives out.(why you still need a second backup)

Keep in mind that backing up to cd/dvd is not always a long term solution. They do have shelf life and are prone to damage, but do work for most people.

The synology itself is 200 with out hard drives. The hard drives would be purchased seperatly and added to the device. (cost depends on the size you would want). my 2TB drives wore 70 buck apeice. so for 340 I have a nice mirrored 2 TB drive that I can access from all my computers, including my phone. Also can access them through web (this is nice for sharing photos to family/friends)

If cost is a factor just a external hard drive will work, but if you can swing it a device like the synology is better. Also streaming files is becoming more popular and is being supported by dvd players and tvs.
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Why?
I had no issues with seagate drives.

Whereas me and my PC based buds have had a 90-100% failure rate.


at that point over that many years its just ridiculous on their part. There is a reason that Seagates are the hard drive of choice when door buster or similar sales are going on.

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+1 I've used Seagate devices for decades and had nearly no failures. I have a box full of Western Digital drives, some of which were DOA.

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I'm lost on everything posted in the Synology reply.
http://www.synology.com/us/resources...ed_storage.php

That will explain it. Basically for a bit more money than a regular external you get more capability and reliability.

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+1 I've used Seagate devices for decades and had nearly no failures. I have a box full of Western Digital drives, some of which were DOA.
Ive had both fail. Usually Seagate will be good for a while, then WD will take over they switch spots.

Its a mechanical device, eventually it will fail.

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Whereas me and my PC based buds have had a 90-100% failure rate.


at that point over that many years its just ridiculous on their part. There is a reason that Seagates are the hard drive of choice when door buster or similar sales are going on.
That is a HUGE failure rate, but out of how many is the question. If I had one WD hard drive my whole life and it failed I would say it had a 100% failure rate. If I had 2 it would be 50% (if the other one worked) so unless you had 1000 drives and 90% of them failed it's kind of hard go off percentages.
You see my point?
Also I'm going to say if the OP needs help picking out a drive then setting up a raid is probably out of the question and not needed. I have been working in the pc world for 10+ years and I don't even have the need for a raid or NAS. Just keep it all on your pc and have a backup external drive. It's the easiest and cheapest to do and you will have 2 copies of it.

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lol, naturally.

Built my first PC at nine and was a retail trainer for a good portion of my career life. If I included retail stats it wouldn't be that high but it was dominated by them no doubt.

direct evaluating was giving me that 90-100% so with family and friends <100 units.

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d-r-o-b-o drobo. lol

In all seriousness a raided type setup will cost more to get going but if you need reliability that is the way to go. There are a few raided NAS type plug and play boxes as well that are nice. I've been looking into this for years and just haven't pulled the trigger but as I'm taking more and more pictures it is becoming more important to me to have a decent backup somewhere.
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make sure you get a harddrive with the correct USB. theres 1,2 and now 3.

And sometimes the hard drives are not always plug n play.



sometimes its just easier to get a large flashdrive/thumbdrive if the above doesn't work.
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