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Google's Wi-Fi Network Mapping

Kinda getting personal aren't they? Big-brother using your wifi? Wouldn't an opt-in be more reasonable? I don't broadcast but the last part where they mention the items below makes you think that they can sniff out non-broadcasted points too:
"Google came under fire when it was recently discovered that Google's Street View cars were not only taking photos of neighborhoods, but "mistakenly" collecting street addresses, Wi-Fi router SSIDs, MAC addresses, unencrypted passwords and even email addresses."

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wonderful...

i love that it was mistakenly collected... someone have to install that hardware and turn it on, not to mention write the code to record it all

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F Google. Mistakenly collected, haha right.

Seriously, if Microsoft or Apple tried pulling this one people would be burning down their corporate headquarters. Oh yeah, it's so simple to change the SSID. Just not ever device that is configured to connect to it. That's like saying it's simple to change you house address, just stick new numbers on the house. Good luck getting mail or having anyone ever visit you again .

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Didn't they get called out on this in Germany a couple years back?

It sounds like they were war driving while doing their google maps. Wierd. I used to war drive, but got bored of it once *everyone* had WiFi.

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Ever notice that your phone asks you to turn Wi-Fi on when you run your Maps application?

Email addresses and passwords that Google collected were a mistake, but MAC addresses and SSIDs were not.

Location based services are big money.
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Me sharing my location from my mobile device is fine, but Google 'war driving' around neighborhoods and cataloging personal home networks is not fine.

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Me sharing my location from my mobile device is fine, but Google 'war driving' around neighborhoods and cataloging personal home networks is not fine.
Why not?

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Ever notice that your phone asks you to turn Wi-Fi on when you run your Maps application?
my blackberry does not do this

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my blackberry does not do this
Your blackberry doesn't do a lot of things that an android does

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this is true, it doesnt datamine for google

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Me sharing my location from my mobile device is fine, but Google 'war driving' around neighborhoods and cataloging personal home networks is not fine.
+1. They should ask my permission before cataloging and collecting my information. I shouldn't have to "opt out" by changing a MY own stuff around so they don't collect it.

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relevant thread hijack:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505124_1...rvices-patent/

"A reissue of a patent originally dating back to 1998 -- and that Apple got from Xerox (XRX) -- has delivered into CEO Tim Cook's hands some serious, and scary, potential control over location-based services. If you thought that Google (GOOG), Samsung, HTC, and others were already depressed over the legal success Apple has had in fighting Android, it's now officially worse."
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Google is at it again, well this time it's Carrier IQ on Android phones

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-57...=News-Security

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Google doesn't support software like CarrierIQ.

http://www.slashgear.com/google-conf...r-iq-01199471/

You can point fingers at your wireless providers for that one. Once they have the source from Google, manufacturers and wireless providers can load up whatever software they want.

All the more reason to root and install an ASOP based rom.
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I never really saw a problem with this? - If they want to "see" what sites I visit from my phone that is fine - If they want to read my riveting texts when I call G2G a pussy and he calls me a Muthafuckin Pussy, that is fine

What data are they REALLY seeing? - I am not paying my bills on this phone and they say they are not logging key strokes so if I got to my Chase App and check my Bal, are they getting my PW and UN?

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Google is at it again, well this time it's Carrier IQ on Android phones

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Google doesn't support software like CarrierIQ.

http://www.slashgear.com/google-conf...r-iq-01199471/

You can point fingers at your wireless providers for that one. Once they have the source from Google, manufacturers and wireless providers can load up whatever software they want.

All the more reason to root and install an ASOP based rom.
It's not only Android devices either, there are CIQ installs on BB and iOS devices as well.

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It's not only Android devices either, there are CIQ installs on BB and iOS devices as well.
You can shut the IOS off VERY easliy - Settings>General>About>Diagnostics & Usage>Check the "Don't' Send" option

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You can shut the IOS off VERY easliy - Settings>General>About>Diagnostics & Usage>Check the "Don't' Send" option
I saw that but there was also some chatter saying that even with it set to "Don't send" it was still passing some data. Pretty easy to rip it out of affected Android phones as well though. Luckily I'm not on a carrier that uses CIQ, they just fuck me over in other ways.

I haven't seen anything about how to turn it off on the BB but who knows.

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You can shut the IOS off VERY easliy - Settings>General>About>Diagnostics & Usage>Check the "Don't' Send" option
aah of course the handly old opt out of something that wasn't very clearly defined. All the carriers / manf that used or implemented this are equally to blame.

On a side note: Its the individual's responsibly for their privacy. CIQ has been known about in the android community for a while and the majority of ROMs out there already have it removed.

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