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19" LCD Flat screen monitors??

Is this good enough for a kids computer or it a complete piece of crap and its going to take a dump in 30 days??
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...&CMP=KNC-GOOGL
notice I said FOR A KIDS COMPUTER...not mine...dont go searching for a widescreen 23" for $1300...Im aware theyre out there

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Is this good enough for a kids computer or it a complete piece of crap and its going to take a dump in 30 days??
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...&CMP=KNC-GOOGL
notice I said FOR A KIDS COMPUTER...not mine...dont go searching for a widescreen 23" for $1300...Im aware theyre out there

nice! lcd prices are falling again, I'm holding out till the resolution is higher.

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Sure, specs look okay. Remember that lcd panels are only made by a very very factories, so the same panels are in the cheap stuff as in the more name brand stuff in alot of cases. I HIGHLY reccomend using DVI on all lcd monitors. Cut down on the blur and fuzziness. Also consider the native resolution. if you arent running the desktop at this, dont buy the monitor.
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This is the 19" lcd that I have.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824179014

It is a great monitor for the price. It has DVI and it is 8ms reponse time.
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I HIGHLY reccomend using DVI on all lcd monitors. Cut down on the blur and fuzziness. Also consider the native resolution. if you arent running the desktop at this, dont buy the monitor.
say that again please..
DVI does what for me?
This is on a stand alone desktop machine. Is that what you meant?

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The blue on the left is a VGA connector, the white on the right is a DVI. If you don't have this DVI connector on your computer, then I woulnd't worry about it; especially if it's for the kids computer.

IMO, forget Tigerdirect, and order from Newegg.com.

I have a Dell Ultrasharp 19" that was >$400, but you can get a good 19" for under $300 with a rebate I bet.

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For your kids? Is 12ms response time adequete for video games? Anyone???

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Anything <16ms is 'adequete' for FPS-style games; but faster is better. How old are the kids? Will they be playing high-end FPS' like Doom3, Battlefield 2, etc?

I sometimes play HL2 on my 20ms Dell and it's fine (I can see ghosting, but it doesn't bother me.)

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theyre 7 and 11 and no they dont play a lot of those games...a lot of PS2 and Gamecube instead

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DVI is the way to go. I have an LG.Philips 19" LCD and it looks like crap on analog VGA. With DVI, it is crystal clear and the colors are so vidid. I just wish I can run it at higher than 1280x1024
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ok back to square 1...is DVI the plug that it uses or is there more to it than that?? If I have the older one can I get a converter plug or not??

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just use the standard vga, but run the panel at its native resolution and it will look great.

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Wow, that does look cheap. Don't over engineer it. It is fine for the kids. Like Chris said; VGA in native resolution should be fine, but you do have the option of DVI. I doubt it will take a crap in 30 days and if so it will be in the 36 month warranty. Run it non stop for 60 days. Normally if there is a manufacturer's defect it will crash by then.

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BTW, I've bought from TigerDirect before with no real problems.

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are dead pixels common with LCD's or not?? How many is acceptable??

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are dead pixels common with LCD's or not?? How many is acceptable??
They happen, but I wouldn't say COMMON. I have a 17" and 19" ViewSonic and have no visibile bad pixels.

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I have 2 21" Dells and a 17" something or another with no dead pixels.

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Can someone explain dead pixels. I heard a lot about it while I was buying my laptop and the screen is fine, but should I looking for something?

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It's is a tiny black spot (1 pixel) that doesn't change. You get them more on TVs than smaller LCDs.

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It's is a tiny black spot (1 pixel) that doesn't change. You get them more on TVs than smaller LCDs.
doesnt have to be black though, thats where the real problems come. if it sticks RED it could be ultra annoying. haha, its pretty rare though. I have one on my dell 17inch ultrasharp, but you'd never notice unless I pointed it out. I have zero on my 20in Sharp TV.

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Just be sure you have good video card. Those monitors work on high res., if you set the game to lower res. then monitor spec. games will look like shit. On this high res. with weak card you will have low FPS. Higher you go on games res. slower FPS you will get.

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This is the 19" lcd that I have.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824179014

It is a great monitor for the price. It has DVI and it is 8ms reponse time.
I just purchased the same lcd from newegg. I should get it on wednesday. What do you think about this lcd?


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doesnt have to be black though, thats where the real problems come. if it sticks RED it could be ultra annoying. haha, its pretty rare though. I have one on my dell 17inch ultrasharp, but you'd never notice unless I pointed it out. I have zero on my 20in Sharp TV.
Wow, I've never seen red. That would suck.

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I just purchased the same lcd from newegg. I should get it on wednesday. What do you think about this lcd?
It is great. It is super fast for games and watching DVDs. It is probably one of the best LCDs for the money. It is the same LCD as the Samsung 915N, but the LD90+ has more features (DVI, turn 90 degrees, better stand). I paid $360 for mine when they were going for $400 a few months ago. I have one stuck red pixel near the bottom of the screen. If it was in the middle it would probably drive me crazy. In movies-It is pretty hard to see dark scenes, but other than that I love it.
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In movies-It is pretty hard to see dark scenes, but other than that I love it.
this is a failing of lcd technology. the blacks suck!! this is another reason my big tv is a plasma, MUCH better blacks.

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this is a failing of lcd technology. the blacks suck!! this is another reason my big tv is a plasma, MUCH better blacks.
You can't beat CRT! 30" Samsung HDTV.

Now, Im really interested in getting an lcd monitor for my laptop. What are the specs that I should be comparing. People have been talking about speed, what is that referring to? Refresh rate?

And do only the 20" and greater come in widescreen format?

And just looking on NewEgg and TigerDirect I saw lots of suppliers that are not main stream, persay, how reliable are they. Is it true that most brands use the same lcd display?

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No such thing as refresh rate with LCDs. They use 'response time' in milliseconds. An 8ms LCD will display the rise and fall of a pixel in 8ms total.
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this is a failing of lcd technology. the blacks suck!! this is another reason my big tv is a plasma, MUCH better blacks.
Yes, but this keeps getting better and better with LCDs. Plasma has it failings too.
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I spent over $300 on my LCD and it was worth every penny. It has the DVI hookup, but unfortunately no DVI cards to see the difference.
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No such thing as refresh rate with LCDs. They use 'response time' in milliseconds. An 8ms LCD will display the rise and fall of a pixel in 8ms total.
Yeah, that's what I was referring to. Thanx.

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