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After reading Tony's thread (and understanding almost zilch) I have been thinking of getting a laptop, or let me re-phrase that, getting Diane to get me one for Christmas. I have recieved from DELL a sales postcard they have laptops for $499, plus another $49 with a wireless card, with xp and I can't remember the rest, I think a 20gig drive,I don't know about the RAM, but it seems bigger is better, I think the processor is 433? Diane has the brochure, and this stuff makes no sense to me.

Anyway my needs are basic:

I want to surf the net wireless, from all parts of the house, shop, garage, etc.

I need to produce WORD documents

I want to store my digital images

I think I want photoshop....do I? None of any software can I resize a picture.

I would like to watch DVD'd on the thing

I want the ability to create burn my own cd's

Ripping DVDs sounds cool.....but is like burning cd's? I have burned cd's with nothing but pictures, seems fine to me. If I burned dvds, will they play in anyones dvd machine, or just mine?

What I'm not

A gamer.

A sophisticated user

So, in PLAIN ENGLISH, in the simplest of terms what do I need? Because as soon as I walk into those computer electronics stores, they start speaking in a foreign tongue.

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Look here they usually have codes you can put in for different stores online for discounts. I know dell had a nice laptop setup all upgrades for 1 price.

I'll let the computer geeks tell ya what you need now

OOPS!! I guess I should also put the link in http://www.naughtycodes.com/

You definetly want a 15" or bigger monitor and also a good size hardrive.

Inspiron 600 or 9300

Also you can customize it to what you want and delete what you don't.


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here is a little comparison of the laptops
http://www1.us.dell.com/content/topi...t=popup&~tab=2


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For resizing pics you don't need photoshop.

It used to be Microsoft Photo editor.
Now it's called Picture Manager that comes with MS Office.
There's other photo editors you could find for free at download.com

XGA display is lame, get something better.
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The perfect resizing utility for Rick:

http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...ertoySetup.exe

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Rickster, I am assuming you are burning DVDs for archival and backup purposes only. Because rippinng DVDs that you do not own would be illegal.

DVDs are copy protected so you need to use some sort of DVD ripper, such as DVD Shrink. Unless you have a dual layer burner, DVD Shrink is a must, plus it's free. Most modern DVDs are multi layered, and are 2x+ 4.7Gigs. DVD Shrinks allows you to trim the fat and compress the DVD into a single layer 4.7Gig media. You are then free to use any DVD burning software to create the DVD.

When burning movies, DVD-Rs are more compatible with DVD players, especially the older ones. I have had problems with DVD+Rs and older DVD players. In addition, not all DVD media are created equal. Certain brands suck. Some won't burn on your burner and if they do burn won't last long at all. I have had good luck with TDK and Maxell DVD-Rs.

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Originally Posted by RickC1957
After reading Tony's thread (and understanding almost zilch) I have been thinking of getting a laptop, or let me re-phrase that, getting Diane to get me one for Christmas. I have recieved from DELL a sales postcard they have laptops for $499, plus another $49 with a wireless card, with xp and I can't remember the rest, I think a 20gig drive,I don't know about the RAM, but it seems bigger is better, I think the processor is 433? Diane has the brochure, and this stuff makes no sense to me.

Anyway my needs are basic:

I want to surf the net wireless, from all parts of the house, shop, garage, etc.

I need to produce WORD documents

I want to store my digital images

I think I want photoshop....do I? None of any software can I resize a picture.

I would like to watch DVD'd on the thing

I want the ability to create burn my own cd's

Ripping DVDs sounds cool.....but is like burning cd's? I have burned cd's with nothing but pictures, seems fine to me. If I burned dvds, will they play in anyones dvd machine, or just mine?

What I'm not

A gamer.

A sophisticated user

So, in PLAIN ENGLISH, in the simplest of terms what do I need? Because as soon as I walk into those computer electronics stores, they start speaking in a foreign tongue.

Better get a bigger hard drive if going to store pix Rick.Picture take up lot room.I go for at least a 100gb hard drive and some back up storage.

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http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPL...ok&mco=DFE2FCC

You'll never look back. Great computers, NO Viruses EVER, mine hasn't frozen in me in the year and a half that I've had it. Nice and fast, easy to use. You'll like it. The built in iPhoto is a great program as well, can do all the editing you need for photos in it.
+1!

For ease of use... great platform, and it can do everything you want!

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You'll never look back. Great computers, NO Viruses EVER, mine hasn't frozen in me in the year and a half that I've had it. Nice and fast, easy to use. You'll like it. The built in iPhoto is a great program as well, can do all the editing you need for photos in it.
I'm not an Apple guy but this is a good point. Rick, it doesn't sound like you're trying to do a world of things. And if that's the case, why not go Apple? Especially since the lingo alone sends you to la la land.
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I'm also not an Apple guy, but I think it would suit your needs quite well. But, seeing those laptops are all white, I think you'll get it greased up pretty soon - i know you're going to referencing microfiches and what not while wrenching something and that mac is going to be brown pretty soon

I agree you might need a bigger drive for pictures, but for that I would suggest getting an external hard drive and just get a 60 gig one for the laptop. Getting anything bigger is going to jack up the price quite a bit.

Monitor size, go for 15.4", widescreen - real nice for movies. And get the super bright option.

And seeing that you'll be carrying it around, weight should be a factor in your decision - around 4 to 5 lbs.

For memory (RAM), minimum you'll need for your apps (XP) is 256 MB (mega bytes), but getting 512 MB shouldn't be that much of a price increase and more is better here.

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I use a mac at work, and when I started looking for a lap top a couple of months ago I though a mac would be great for me, but then I though about it. I already have a PC (desk top) at home and I wanted to share software, so I got a PC instead.

Is MS Streets & Trips available for the mac? I don't think so.

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To do what you are saying you will spend a whole lot more than $499. Personally, I like Toshiba notebooks although I may get a really small 4.5lb Sony for on the road.

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The real question is what makes you need a laptop as opposed to a desktop computer? I didn't really see anything in your requirements that seems to require portability, and I've always figured that your portability needs will determine what kind of laptop you get.

Using Dell Inspirons as an example (and because we sell them so I have a lot more exp with Dell than any other computers)

Get a 700m if you need a really portable machine and use it a lot on the road, but I'd recommend having a Desktop at home because the damn thing is so small I'd kill myself if I had to use it daily as my main computer. I've got a 700m as my personal laptop and I use it at hotels and stuff but that's it.

630m if you transport it a lot but want it to be your main computer anyways. I like these a lot, seems like what a laptop should be size and balance-wise.

1200 for a cheap computer that does all the basic stuff OK

6000 for a decent computer with a widescreen for movies and pictures, but is too heavy to be a highly transportable machine

9300 or XPS for a powerful desktop replacement that you move almost never

Other than the part about burning DVD's, the $499 computer (base model Dell Inspiron 1200) will do it just fine, just a bit slower, since it only has 256mb RAM and runs a Celeron M 1.3ghz processor.

For something that will not run slowly and last you a bit longer, I'd recommend a Pentium M 1.6 or higher, 512mb, at least 60gb hard drive, and a DVD burner. If you go Dell, I'd say get a 630M for portability, or a 6000 for the widescreen.

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+1!

For ease of use... great platform, and it can do everything you want!
+1

Mac's are byfar the best system to be using. Easy to use, no viruses, run's every graphic app 110%.

I've got a powerbook myself, and its been nothing but a dream for last year.

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Mac's are byfar the best system to be using. Easy to use, no viruses, run's every graphic app 110%.

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Is MS Streets & Trips available for the mac? I don't think so.
This is true, BUT... ROUTE USA is MUCH better then Streets & Trips and has no problem downloading to any type of GPS.

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Hey Rick,
Last month's Wired Magazine had a review of their top rated notebooks. Do you want it? It's only a couple of pages. I can probably scan and email it to you or just drop the whole mag off.

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This is true, BUT... ROUTE USA is MUCH better then Streets & Trips and has no problem downloading to any type of GPS.
maybe, but the whole sport-touring community in using S & T, we can share files with each other this way. No one uses S & T from GPS anyway, Garmin comes with its own software.

Rick already has S & T, Iíd doubt he would go out and buy another mapping software, it took him two years just to buy S & T

Anyway, itís all about the priceÖ. he's looking at a basic $500 laptop.

My Toshiba Satellite M55 has a 512 MB RAM, 100 GB Hard Drive and it cost 1/2 of what a PowerBook Notebook costs, the 15Ē screen PowerBooks start at $1999. As much as I love the macs, and I use one at work everyday, the price had a lot to do with why I didnít get one.
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Isn't that the same thing that was said about BETA over VHS?

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Last month's Wired Magazine had a review of their top rated notebooks. Do you want it? It's only a couple of pages. I can probably scan and email it to you or just drop the whole mag off.

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Rick already has S & T, Iíd doubt he would go out and buy another mapping software, it took him two years just to buy S & T
the 2610 came in today, man we are really going to get lost now All these buttons, and touchscreen, I used it in the car this afternoon, I like it......I'm not sure WTF it was doing but the screen is sure vivid enough

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I have a toshiba satelite laptop also. I bought it from best buy and like it alot.

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The perfect resizing utility for Rick:

http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...ertoySetup.exe

Also, a Dell Inspiron will do all that you need for cheap.
Wow, that XP PowerToy Resizing tool is amazing! I've been using Picasa to resize pictures for the web and for reports at work, but this addition for XP works much better.

It resized a 2592 x 1944 picture that was 443 KB down to 800 x 600 which is 39 KB! It installs itself into windows, so the resize option shows up when you right click on a picture with small, medium and large resizing options. I love it! thanx Shadrach

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