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post #1 of 20 (permalink) Old 08-02-2006, 01:07 PM Thread Starter
 
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Thinking of buying a new PC? Good and bad.

First, why...well there's new processors hitting the market. This means that for the latest gamer/power seeker, buying now is not the best choice. Games are often ahead of hardware, so even if you buy the latest chips and gadgets, you'll have a tough time running Doom III at full force. Not to mention, those of us that are on the bleeding edge, it's always a good idea to wait until new operating systems are released if they are around the corner such as Vista. After that you can see which processors/memory config's, etc...run the OS the best.

However, some folks don't care about that. They care about surfing the web, having an affordable pc or laptop, and don't care if they are running the latest operating system. Just need something reliable and not too slow. Well, then for you folks, now is a pretty good time to buy. Waiting for the last minute of the good deal is actually the best, but it's tough. How it usually works is that prices take a big time plunge (as they have now). For example...a laptop I was looking at getting was $1450 about a month ago with the warranty and configuration that I'm looking for. Today it can be had , exactly the same (couple minor things upgraded) for $1119. I don't doubt that the price will drop even more. But on a lot of equipment, when it's nearing the end, the price actually goes up just a bit at the end. Why? Well because folks after some time are looking to replace parts of their old systems or do some upgrades, so there's still money to be made. Then at some point a laptop may simply disappear and be discontinued and you missed out on a good deal.

Finally...almost every distributor such as Dell and HP has a B stock section. There you can find not only refurb'd laptops or other...but items people ordered that never went through. So someone ordered a laptop with this or that and then cancelled the order. The laptop price is usually dropped a few bucks ($50-$100 on average) to get it out the door faster...so dig for those sections. They are live time postings usually. Meaning you should go there ready to buy, because from the moment you read the stats, to the second that you click "Add to my Cart", someone else may have already bought it...it's like a rolling auction.
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Question is what do all these new chips etc mean for the prices of Mac's as I want to buy a macbook.




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Question is what do all these new chips etc mean for the prices of Mac's as I want to buy a macbook.
Apple really only drops their prices when they come out with new things... So just chips coming out blanketly is not going to impact mac prices like it would the PC arena. Now, if Apple starts to incorporate that technology into their lineup, they tend to just 'roll' them in at the same price points (now you get more for your money), or if they come out with a new model, they'll bump everything else below that new model down a bit in price.

Basically, if you're itching for a mac, just get one.

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Apple really only drops their prices when they come out with new things... So just chips coming out blanketly is not going to impact mac prices like it would the PC arena. Now, if Apple starts to incorporate that technology into their lineup, they tend to just 'roll' them in at the same price points (now you get more for your money), or if they come out with a new model, they'll bump everything else below that new model down a bit in price.

Basically, if you're itching for a mac, just get one.
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mac book pro...end of discussion

True dat.

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True dat.

Anyone want a 15" 1.5ghz G4 powerbook in mint condition, 1gb ram and extra 6hr battery? :>

How new is the battery? is it the same as the 1.67 PB's? Mine gettin old and only lasts about 1.5 hours.

ON a similar note, any interest in a iBook: 1.33ghz G4 processor, 768 mb of DDR RAM, 32mb VRAM , OS x10.4.7, Built in wi-fi (airport) and bluetooth, CDR/DVD drive, built-in mic, 74.53 GB hard drive?

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Ok now what we need is for arch and rob to get into a bidding war to see who is going to give me thier machine the cheapest so they can convert me over to Mac




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Ok now what we need is for arch and rob to get into a bidding war to see who is going to give me thier machine the cheapest so they can convert me over to Mac
As much as I'd love to find someone to buy mine so I can get the latest and greatest, I would not want to sell it to a first-timer because *YOU* should get the latest and greatest. The macbooks (and Pros) *ARE* much much faster than the G4s when you pump them to a gig or more in memory... and for a first-timer, you'd want the experience to be the best it can be.

I'd actually look to drop mine on someone w/ an underpowered G4 or even a G3 laptop that wants something 'better' without spending an arm and a leg.... knowing full well it's not the 'best mac experience out there' but one that would be better than their current.

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I'd buy Mac if they met 2 measily little conditions.

1) If they had any games.

2) If anyone in the world used them outside of music/video editing.
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I'd buy Mac if they met 2 measily little conditions.

1) If they had any games.

2) If anyone in the world used them outside of music/video editing.
For games, stick in the PC arena. More upgrades/etc for the money.

For everything else, hell, you can even dual-boot the new macbooks to XP if you really felt that desparate. You can do every internet thing you already do, there's MS office for them, OpenOffice (for free)... Install the xcode w/ X/11 and gcc and 'fink' and you've basically got the world of open-source at your fingertips.

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Never seen Crystal Reports for Mac which is primarily what I do. Other than that all corporate networks are mostly what I meant about "the world". In the corporate world, Mac OS wouldn't even be the runner up at this point but Linux. They make a nice OS for sure...but it's for someone who likes the style and functionality on a personal or very small business level. Would otherwise be useless to those of us who game and work in the IT world.
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am I the only one who has a Dell laptop - yes with windows- that doesnt lock up? All I hear is complaining and even see TV commercials about this and it never happens to me.

I cant imagine why I would switch to Mac.

Unless I braided the right side of my hair, wore a orange and green knitted hat, a lot of wrist bracelets, wore Converse Chuck Taylors, had really wierd shaped glasses, pork chop side burns, dead possum facial hair, I could go on...

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We've had the mac vs pc debate. To put it this way. When something is small, it is often better than something big. Such as Firefox vs IE, Google then vs Google now, and so on. Mac OS is small. I have no doubt that it is a little 'better' overall than Windows. However if it were to grow (which it is), then the ugly comes out. Now viruses are being released, security updates are coming, systems are crashing, and even catching fire. When something is small, it can easily be superior...there's always more problems than seem. BUT, Mac is still solid software and hardware. Be that as it may, it's simply not a practical system for most to run. If you ONLY care about web surfing, then a cheapo PC will do it for you vs superior hardware and higher price of Mac. If you ONLY care about games, then that's PC as well. Finally if you plan on doing any corporate IT work it's all PC based.
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Was taking the crystal reports tangent one step further...
Most people want pretty pictures from DB data. Those tools provide it beautifully, regardless of the OS.

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how much are you looking to get for the ibook or powerbook?
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how much are you looking to get for the ibook or powerbook?
I'd like to get 600 for the iBook.

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