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Plasma?? DLP?? LCD??

WTF? I miss when tv's were big and one kind...COLOR! There are so many choices, my heads going to implode.

Help me pick the right choice based on my criteria.

1. Not going to hang it on a wall....so must be able to stand on its own.
2. Must be 1080p....don't have to upgrade for a while.
3. HD built in....duh
4. Either 42in or 50in...don't need a monster screen
5. Must have deep dark blacks....can't stand the "grey" black levels.
6. Price....under 3k would be ideal.


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5. Must have deep dark blacks....can't stand the "grey" black levels.
this one alone makes me want to say plasma. the newest lcd panels, and dlp/lcd projectors have gotten better but plasma still has the best blacks.

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Plasma with an extended warranty is the only way to go.

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+1 Plasma.


The big LCD's are slow..... motion is blurry and the blacks suck.


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The big LCD's are slow..... motion is blurry and the blacks suck.


Agree on the extended warranty deal too.


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LCD is better technology and will provide a better picture. The KEY is spending enough to get a good one with under 8ms response and good back lights to get the true blacks.

Plasma is dying technology.

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LCD Rear projection is nice I have a 50" Sony SXRD LCD and it's badass.
DLP you can get more for your money.

Get the calibration disc it makes a huge difference especially with blacks. Most people don't set their TV's up correctly and then complain about picture issues. Don't spend thousands on a tv and then not know how to set it up. lol.

You can spend less than 3000 easy and get a tv bigger than 56. Mine was 1800 + 400 for warranty for an open boxed item with full 5 yr extended warranty from best buy
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LCD is better technology and will provide a better picture. The KEY is spending enough to get a good one with under 8ms response and good back lights to get the true blacks.

Plasma is dying technology.
I heard the new LED backlights give better blacks, I've yet to see it though and the LED backlit units are quite expensive. You gotta pay a lot to play with LCD.

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LCD is better technology and will provide a better picture. The KEY is spending enough to get a good one with under 8ms response and good back lights to get the true blacks.

Plasma is dying technology.
the one I linkied was 4 ms response time



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LCD is better technology and will provide a better picture. The KEY is spending enough to get a good one with under 8ms response and good back lights to get the true blacks.

Plasma is dying technology.

About time someone talks some sense.

LCD is improving all the time.

Plasma, while a fantastic picture today, is a technology with a limited lifespan built in.

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DLP...I have a Toshiba and the blacks are fantastic and a nice 56" size.
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the one I linkied was 4 ms response time


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Plasma, while a fantastic picture today, is a technology with a limited lifespan built in.
so is LCD. No one ever reads the literature with their displays, LCD units have a listed halflife just like plasmas and they're about equal.

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I've heard the same thing about Plasma being done for, with LCD improving. However I'm ready to do this now, not 5 years from now. The DLP option sounds good, Samsung has one that is 10in deep. Which I can't believe, last time I looked at them, they were a lot more.

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My dad works at the Magnolia at Best Buy on Butterfield in Downers Grove (or is that Lombard there?)

Ask for Frank Ventura if you decide to go there, tell him you ride motorcycles with his son and I suggested you talk to him.

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The new LED engine Sammys are about 10" thick it is amazing. Even the older Sammy DLP's are only like 14" deep. My 50" is great but I wish I went bigger. Whatever you think your size should be, go the next step higher that you can afford. You think you need the 50 buy the 56.

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If you want to get more bang for your buck, avoid those chain stores i.e. Best Buy, Circuit City, the mark-up on anything they sell there is ridiculous. Go for discount sellers such as Frys or Tiger Direct you should find same brands, better price.


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So can you actually buy a bad TV? As long as I stay with a name brand I'll be OK right?
in my opinion, yes you can buy a bad TV. Even the big names have their crappy models. Whatever you get close to pulling the trigger on do a search on the model number over at avsforum.com.

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so is LCD. No one ever reads the literature with their displays, LCD units have a listed halflife just like plasmas and they're about equal.
The age limit on LCD is the Cold Cathode tubes that provide the backlighting. Easily replaced, and the next gen of LCD are using ultra-white LED for backlighting (though expensive).

Plasma uses phosphors, just like a CRT, which is how they are able to produce CRT like color and black/blacks. But like CRTs. They have a limited lifespan as that phosphor fades.

So much new technology coming out in flat panel design, if I *had* to buy today, I'd get something inexpensive to hold me over till the next gen OLED displays roll out. Especially with HD/Blu Ray and HDCP still percolating and True HD 4080 a few years off.

Lots of options...too many right now really. I took the cheap way out and went with a 1280X1024 DLP projector and an 8 foot screen. I miss the high contrast of Plasma, and the better LCDs, but it's a fun screen for computer based home theater systems. I'm going hold out with this another few years and see where LCD goes.

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in my opinion, yes you can buy a bad TV. Even the big names have their crappy models. Whatever you get close to pulling the trigger on do a search on the model number over at avsforum.com.

keep it within reason.


AVS has ALLOT of whiney retards.

There are some really smart guys over there but they are really inendated with stupid people who never stop whining without point.



but yes, research is always good, Cnet rated a TV awesome when it was a big pile of steaming.....

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So can you actually buy a bad TV? As long as I stay with a name brand I'll be OK right?
if your comming from a srt 27" tube television, pretty much any 42" HD TV will blow you away. However, there is quality difference.

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not all lcd units have a replaceable cct though.

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if you want to get serious, spend 2 hours at best buy or abt. look at the different sets and get what looks good to you. I have both LCD and DLP, different rooms and different needs mean different sets will be better in certain situations. I was at BB last weekend, just looking, and I have to say the best picture/value i saw was a slim display samsung 46 inch DLP, full 1080p ($1250). close second was the 42 inch LCD's in 1080p, though those were north of $2K.

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not all lcd units have a replaceable cct though.
And *none* of the Plasma have replaceable phosphor.

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And *none* of the Plasma have replaceable phosphor.
absolutely correct. but with a rated high brightness life of 60,000 hours(and this is at stock settings which you know are too high/bright) you get to watch it 8 hours a day for 20 years. Seriously, the whole is blown out of proportion. I only mentioned the LCD's had similarly listed half lives to point out the marketing descrepancy.


i'm with you though, there is too much new exciting stuff on the horizon to blow the bank on a TV. If it was me I'd get a 58" panny plamsa and be happy for years, then move it to the kids playroom once newer technology is cheaper. Remember, buying a rear projection unit means wall mounting in a different room later on is not an option.

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We have this argument it seems like every time a TV thread comes up. Its humorous.

VCook = Plasma Camp

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