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Super Computer (well, for me)

Ok, we all have some knowledge I would guess about the great things you can buy to build a great pc. Well, after realizing that my pc of 4 years is outdated (games and some software can't be loaded) the wife and I decided it's time to get a new one. But alas, I got a green light to kill! She basically said this:
"Ok, if you're going to do it, go all the way!"

So I did. Here are the specs:

Case: CoolerMaster - Cosmos
CPU: AMD X2 Dual Core 5600+
Memory: 1GB DDR2 PC6400 Corsair
Mobo: Asus M2NSLI-32 DLX nForce 590 SLI
GPU: (2 of them) XFX GeForce 8600gt 512 PCI (joined together via SLI)
PSU: CoolerMaster 600 Watt Extreme Power
Storage: Maxtor 250GB SATA II 3.GB 7200RPM
Sound Card: Creative X-FI Xtreme Gamer
OS: Vista & XP Professional
12-IN-One Internal Card Reader

The case came with 3 large fans and the CPU is being chilled by CoolerMaster Liquid cooling kit. Upgrades will be better storage and more RAM. And of course I have to toss the burner for a Plextor PX-810SA. Below are some pics of the interior and exterior. The case I recommend highly. Go to the website to check it out. It's just one of those cases that takes care of everything for a LONG TIME! Everything else is personal choice.
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Only 1GB of RAM?!?! Go up to 3GB, but no higher than that with a 32-bit OS. (Yes, 4GB is technically supported but the last 1GB is barely addressable and a waste of $$ unless moving to a 64-bit OS.)

I'm also not sure if I like that case design with the PSU at the bottom. Heat rises and water drips down, so the heat from the PSU will head towards the board, while any leaks appear in that cooling setup and the water goes right into the power supply!

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Only 1GB of RAM?!?! Go up to 3GB, but no higher than that with a 32-bit OS. (Yes, 4GB is technically supported but the last 1GB is barely addressable and a waste of $$ unless moving to a 64-bit OS.)
+1 to that...

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Definitely get another drive in there and distribute where your system files and swap files are.

The 'add more memory' has already been es'plained.

F'ing A on the graphics and CPU.. nice nice nice.

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That is bad azzzzz. Liquid cooled!
+1 on more memory. 3 gb is the sweet spot. Just ordered me up 2 more gbs for my system this morning.
Be sure to get a nice surge/power conditioner to plug in the wall in front of your system. Wouldn't want a lightning strike or even worse a brown out to screw up your system. Those fancy high end electronics are really touchy with voltage. Very nice system.

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Looks neat. Funny you post this, I just started shopping for a new PC since my IDE ports died and the caps on my old motherboard look like they are about to burst. It's difficult to process photos when the system randomly shuts off video or reboots. LOL

I like your video setup, but I would have made a couple different configuration changes....most were noted above.

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This might cost you about $150ish

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Only 1GB of RAM?!?! Go up to 3GB, but no higher than that with a 32-bit OS. (Yes, 4GB is technically supported but the last 1GB is barely addressable and a waste of $$ unless moving to a 64-bit OS.)

I'm also not sure if I like that case design with the PSU at the bottom. Heat rises and water drips down, so the heat from the PSU will head towards the board, while any leaks appear in that cooling setup and the water goes right into the power supply!

I just ordered parts for a new virtualization sandbox server to run my home labs and went with 8GB DDR2, Core 2 Quad E6750 2.6GHz (will OC to around 3.2), and a pair of 500GB SATAII drives.
People, people. READ. The memory is one of the upgrades. That's what I typed. I see you guys skipped over it to share your elbows. I have a gig in my old pc that I'll be transferring over (if everything is compatible 100%). Other than that I'll get the same kind already in the system. I have 2 more slots to play with.

And the way the case works the PSU actually pushes the hot air out. Read up on the case and howl it works. The way it holds things like the hard drive to the way it vents out air. It's super quiet yet so much air comes out the calendar on my wall is moving from the blast. I got the liquid cooler for the psu and everything is secure. If yours dripped then maybe you did something wrong. Plus, I don't need to overkill on RAM. WTF is 8 GB for?! I have no need for more than 2-3GB or RAM. I'm running a computer - not some freakin' electronic sandbox. lol The memory is high end and I want to get the same set when I get more. But for now the old one will do. That's why I have the dual card setup and a high end CPU. It evens out perfectly.

With the video setup it gives me the option in the future to hook up FOUR monitors. So I'm set on that. Ya bunch of haters!

This is the setup I wanted. I'm familiar with things like you guys. But at the same time I know what I'll be using it for. It plays my p0rn faster than ever now!

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I was going to get I think it's called APC. I had them before for my other system. I just want to get a larger one. See ya in cyberspace guys.

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Good call on the UPS. With a system that expensive, an inexpensive UPS is great insurance.

How do you like those connections on the top of your computer?

I promised myself that the next case I'd get would be full tower and have the I/O ports easily available for hooking up my digital cameras and card readers and the like.

I do like that case man. It's hard to find a case I like. Most are just flimsy show or confined server boxes...not much in between.

I have some photos of some of my old cases and mods. I don't have any that are earlier then '98, but you get the idea.

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People, people. READ. The memory is one of the upgrades. That's what I typed. I see you guys skipped over it to share your elbows.
I read that as 1GB 'was' the upgrade from your old setup. I guess I wasn't the only one that misunderstood.

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If yours dripped then maybe you did something wrong. Plus, I don't need to overkill on RAM. WTF is 8 GB for?! I have no need for more than 2-3GB or RAM.
Im not saying it's GOING to leak, I'm saying I don't like the idea of water being above a PSU like that, mistakes or not, gravity wins always. Just an observation.

And 8GB RAM is for running multiple VM guests on the same server simluataneously, I'll easily eat up the majority of that 8GB with 7-15 virtual guests running between 386-1024MB of RAM each. But I said to stop at 3GB, not to run 8GB, so who needs to read now

It looks like you have a pair of 512MB chips in dual-channel slot 1, so grab a 2GB kit (two 1GB chips) and populate the other channel for best bang-for-your-buck.

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I'm not familiar with the FSB on the current lineup of AMD chips, but if this memory suits you, it's the best bang for the buck I've found:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231122

Like I said, I'm shopping for a system myself.

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Good build overall, always exciting to play with new systems. The only change I'd do would be a mobo and cpu replacement. I was a fan of AMD for a many years until I saw the glory of Core 2 Extreme Quad, so Intel + a DFI mobo...amazing! only real problem I can see with my change is that 1 chip and the 1 dfi mobo is like a whole new pc...price-wise (1.5k). I felt terrible after I bought my core 2 extreme quad 6850 since they already dropped price

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I have never had a failure. I have, on the other hand, replaced a lot of no-name memory for friends and family that price-shopped their memory. And since people will never stop buying computers based solely on price (and then call you when it craps all over itself), I make sure my memtest86 cd is always nearby. Have you thought about running apps from a 10kRPM SATA disk? Used to swear by ASUS and ABIT until I ran across a bad MB from each. I have moved to DFI and been very pleased. I'm sure ASUS is still a good product, just my experience.

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I have never had a failure. I have, on the other hand, replaced a lot of no-name memory for friends and family that price-shopped their memory. And since people will never stop buying computers based solely on price (and then call you when it craps all over itself), I make sure my memtest86 cd is always nearby. Have you thought about running apps from a 10kRPM SATA disk? Used to swear by ASUS and ABIT until I ran across a bad MB from each. I have moved to DFI and been very pleased. I'm sure ASUS is still a good product, just my experience.

Every company has bad parts. Corsair and DFI are no exception. Look through my gallery photos linked on the first page of this thread; I used to be a beta tester for DFI and was sponsored by Corsair...I've had my share of bad hardware from both, and these were often cherry picked parts for me to test and do reviews on.

That said, each company seems to have their high's and lows. Right now, Asus and Gigabit are the big boys of motherboards.

As for memory, if it's got a lifetime warranty and the customer service is good, then I'm not worried about it. Those two points typically go hand in hand with a good, if not great product. Personally, Corsair is at the top of my list...I'm just pointing out that other brands are often as good, and for a little less $$.

Loki, I've been casually shopping for a computer case since I've started researching what parts I want...and I keep coming back to the one you have. So far, I think it's the best damn all around case there is! I think I'm going to get one too! Thanks for posting your photos!

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Im not saying it's GOING to leak, I'm saying I don't like the idea of water being above a PSU like that, mistakes or not, gravity wins always. Just an observation.

And 8GB RAM is for running multiple VM guests on the same server simluataneously, I'll easily eat up the majority of that 8GB with 7-15 virtual guests running between 386-1024MB of RAM each. But I said to stop at 3GB, not to run 8GB, so who needs to read now

It looks like you have a pair of 512MB chips in dual-channel slot 1, so grab a 2GB kit (two 1GB chips) and populate the other channel for best bang-for-your-buck.
I feel ya on the RAM. I love Corsair and could never afford what I wanted. Now I can and a GB was all that I could scrape up. I wanted the dual cards and mobo so the RAM was the sacrifice.

Yep, with 2 more slots I can still get a great set to add on.
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Only 1GB of RAM?!?! Go up to 3GB, but no higher than that with a 32-bit OS. (Yes, 4GB is technically supported but the last 1GB is barely addressable and a waste of $$ unless moving to a 64-bit OS.)

I'm also not sure if I like that case design with the PSU at the bottom. Heat rises and water drips down, so the heat from the PSU will head towards the board, while any leaks appear in that cooling setup and the water goes right into the power supply!
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Loki, I've been casually shopping for a computer case since I've started researching what parts I want...and I keep coming back to the one you have. So far, I think it's the best damn all around case there is! I think I'm going to get one too! Thanks for posting your photos!
I have a subscription to Maximum PC. Been with them for years. And every year they make a "Dream Machine". It's literally a pc with every high end, high performance piece the can find. For instance, the RAM they used is from Corsair but it's their high end. For 2GB it was $600. odd dollars! Anyways, they used this case and I reviewed it. Look at howl things were done inside. I mean the freakin' thing locks stuff in with a push button and you can store your hard drives (or RAID) vertically! It's just the case that I don't see being beaten for a while. And the poles on top are carrying handles while the ones on the bottom keep it off the floor. Since lower parts of the case is typically where cool air is the PSU is there. It looks great too and the way the panels open is simply a lever at the top. Lift it and the panel falls. It's very cool (literally) and for the money is just a great deal. Too many features. Hit their website.

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Every company has bad parts. Corsair and DFI are no exception. Look through my gallery photos linked on the first page of this thread; I used to be a beta tester for DFI and was sponsored by Corsair...I've had my share of bad hardware from both, and these were often cherry picked parts for me to test and do reviews on.

That said, each company seems to have their high's and lows. Right now, Asus and Gigabit are the big boys of motherboards.

As for memory, if it's got a lifetime warranty and the customer service is good, then I'm not worried about it. Those two points typically go hand in hand with a good, if not great product. Personally, Corsair is at the top of my list...I'm just pointing out that other brands are often as good, and for a little less $$.
Well it's not like I'm saying Corsair or DFI have never made a component that's failed. LoL - I mean come on. My personal experience has been that they are very reliable - and I've never found Corsair to be unreasonably priced. Bad memory seems like it's the problem I find the most when a friend or relative contacts me about an ailing computer - so I have a predisposition towards reputable RAM, and Corsair happens to be my favorite. A lot of that has to do with the quality of information and user-interaction on their website.

DFI is more the flavor or the month for me lately. Was ABIT, then ASUS. I've been wanting to build something on a Gigabyte. They seem very nice.

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That would be cool to have DFI and Corsair stickers on your bike. LOL

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DFI is more the flavor or the month for me lately. Was ABIT, then ASUS. I've been wanting to build something on a Gigabyte. They seem very nice.
I think that's kinda what I was saying about each brand having their highs and lows. Back when I beta tested DFI, everyone bitched about a new company that couldn't be trusted, too expensive, bla bla bla. They were pretty damn cool and actually listened to what the beta testers were saying and doing and asking for.

I got dropped from the program when the board engineers were no longer parts of the beta testing program...the program was taken over by the Marketing department! So that meant that instead of boards going to people like me who would beat this shit out of them in real day to day use, the boards would go only to web pages with the highest hit counters.

That left a bad taste in my mouth, and I try not to sling mud at DFI...honestly, I'm glad they still do gaudy high end gaming boards...and if it wasn't so expensive, I probably would have gone with them this round.

My first choice was the Asus Blitz Formula...but it was a limited edition board and sold out in two weeks. I don't feel like waiting a month or two for the next generation or limited edition Formula board to come out, so I'm taking a chance with Gigabyte. I've honestly never used Gigabyte before, and I remember when they were simply a low end board maker...so this will be an experience for me.

Check my other thread on the computer I'm building...I put my parts on order and I've already got tracking numbers for them. I'll be posting pictures and benchmarks once I get the system cobbled together. I still have to save up for that awesome case and a better video card, but the system should be light years better then my P4 2.8. LOL

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this is what a nerd circle jerk looks like

nice computer man but shell out for another gig of ram

oh and lose vista, and i dont mean just lose it, like bring that shit to a priest and have it exorcised and throw some holy water on it and bury the cd 6 feet under or drop it in the depths of mordor

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and fuck asus, fuck it up its stupid ass, every asus board ive ever had has had memory slot issues, ive never had a functional asus board, now im rockin a biostar and its pretty damn good. abit is another contender for awesome boards

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