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Really well. My company wants to roll out VOIP enterprise wide by the end of the year. It's pretty much on my shoulders to make sure this thing runs right from day one. My knowledge of VIOP is basically nothing right now. I want to talk to someone who knows what they are doing. I've been talking with a couple of vendors, but of course when you ask them a question there answer is that there product can do it, or we can help you with that.

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Really well. My company wants to roll out VOIP enterprise wide by the end of the year. It's pretty much on my shoulders to make sure this thing runs right from day one. My knowledge of VIOP is basically nothing right now. I want to talk to someone who knows what they are doing. I've been talking with a couple of vendors, but of course when you ask them a question there answer is that there product can do it, or we can help you with that.

So if anyone is a VOIP guru and is willing to answer some of my questions post up or PM me if you want to stay under the radar.
Good luck with less than 90 days - We do VOIP dude - Not product but services - We did our own and others - Let me know if you want to chat and want help with the rollout

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dude, by end of year? I hope you have a small company and a fat budget.
Who said Budget?????

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if you have remote locations you're probably going to need to bump the bandwidth to ride the voice over your frame. Start talking to your telco providers ASAP. Sometimes getting increased bandwidth, or god forbid new circuits turned up, can take forever and really hose you on your timeline.

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We've done two 1000+ phone implementations in the last two years for a school district. One with Siemens - one with Avaya.

The Siemens system sucked HARD. The support sucked harder. It was finally pulled out at their expense under the terms of a lawsuit.

The Avaya system has been working better than expected. Nothing but good things to say so far. I partner with a local company out of Schaumburg (Innovative Voice Technologies).

The nice thing is that their project managers and techs are all from the same office - but they still have Avaya engineers involved.

If you want more info lemme know. +1 to the others that you're in for some chaos - especially if your infrastructure isn't already prepped for QOS.

From the ones we've come across, I would rank the options as follows:

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Lets not forget about QOS and Priotization

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So, they decided what they need without really knowing if it's a good fit for them?

Usually companies do not come to these conclusions (ok, let me rephrase that.. they SHOULD NOT come to those conclusions) without a vendor, roll out schedule and cost work complete.

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Lets not forget about QOS and Priotization
Oh jeez I just assumed he'd have equipment in place that could do some level of qos, but I suppose I shouldnt assume. Seriously, unless your company is small your timeline is going to leave you fuckin' frazzled.

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Oh jeez I just assumed he'd have equipment in place that could do some level of qos, but I suppose I shouldnt assume. Seriously, unless your company is small your timeline is going to leave you fuckin' frazzled.
You would most likely have to stop everything today and put all focus on VOIP to make it by yr end

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You don't see the humor in that?
Dude, he could just call up vonage and have this shit knocked out by end of next week!!



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You don't see the humor in that?
Of course I do but it is unattainable challenges like this that allow me to position my guys to help - Hey, your house has a few "out theres" as well my man - I want to get my hands on the NYC offices and lets talk about the international locations please

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That was the first time I have laughed all day - Thx Bro

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If anyone could pull off a project like that, I would, without a doubt, put my $$ on you.
Stahhhp - We have worked with Jon's company in the past although not through me - he knows he can call us but I am sure he just forgot - ASSHOLE! - Hourly Rate Increase by 4% now

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All I can say, is good luck. I am planning on rolling out Cisco Unified messaging, ip phones, soft phones etc. The switching architecture analysis, tel com lead time and bandwidth analysis, vendor selection, and design of the new system not to mention the integration analysis with current systems and off sites etc. all that took me 4 months just to decide what we needed for hardware, switching upgrades, wiring needs etc. and I work for a small company with only 250 employees and 3 sites - granted I run a one man shop (me) but I don't foresee you making your time line- and as mentioned before- whats your budget - this shit aint cheap. Again- Good Luck.

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All I can say, is good luck. I am planning on rolling out Cisco Unified messaging, ip phones, soft phones etc. The switching architecture analysis, tel com lead time and bandwidth analysis, vendor selection, and design of the new system not to mention the integration analysis with current systems and off sites etc. all that took me 4 months just to decide what we needed for hardware, switching upgrades, wiring needs etc. and I work for a small company with only 250 employees and 3 sites - granted I run a one man shop (me) but I don't foresee you making your time line- and as mentioned before- whats your budget - this shit aint cheap. Again- Good Luck.
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Really well. My company wants to roll out VOIP enterprise wide by the end of the year. It's pretty much on my shoulders to make sure this thing runs right from day one. My knowledge of VIOP is basically nothing right now. I want to talk to someone who knows what they are doing. I've been talking with a couple of vendors, but of course when you ask them a question there answer is that there product can do it, or we can help you with that.

So if anyone is a VOIP guru and is willing to answer some of my questions post up or PM me if you want to stay under the radar.

Two years ago I did a full Cisco call manager setup for my firm. If you have questions let me know. I also had two complete different VOIP setups.

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We've done two 1000+ phone implementations in the last two years for a school district. One with Siemens - one with Avaya.

The Siemens system sucked HARD. The support sucked harder. It was finally pulled out at their expense under the terms of a lawsuit.

The Avaya system has been working better than expected. Nothing but good things to say so far. I partner with a local company out of Schaumburg (Innovative Voice Technologies).

The nice thing is that their project managers and techs are all from the same office - but they still have Avaya engineers involved.

If you want more info lemme know. +1 to the others that you're in for some chaos - especially if your infrastructure isn't already prepped for QOS.

From the ones we've come across, I would rank the options as follows:

- Cisco / Avaya (Cisco has better tech, Avaya has better pricing & service)
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Good luck! We put in Fonality with Polycom and Avaya phones last August, the bugs weren't completely worked out for a year. For the longest while I wished we went with Cisco. Now things are pretty decent; I wouldn't want a large company roll out by the EoY on my shoulders.
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I know that the EOY date is a joke. The owner threw that out without even talking to Technology.

Jrock I got it. I laughed.

So I got about 500 users in 3 offices. Gig links between all but 1. That's 100 megs but there is only 60 people there.

So Seimens sucks. Got it.

I already got in a proposal for an infrastructure upgrade. Nothing was capable of handling QOS very well. We've already met with Cisco and we are meeting with Avaya tomorrow.

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