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post #1 of 40 (permalink) Old 10-27-2007, 09:26 AM Thread Starter
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PC problem, need some advice

The oddest thing happened, or is failing to happen. My PC won't turn on. Not at all. I push the power button and nothing happens.

I recently upgraded most of the components, including the power supply. My first thought is that it went bad, but it's practically brand new.

I checked all the connections to everything and they are all firm. I'm stumped, I've never had this problem before.

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Does the fan even begin to try to budge when you hit the button?

Make sure the power supply is set for 110V 60hz (I've seen some switched for non US voltage before).

Beyond that, every time I've personally had this sort of a problem it was due to a short w/ the case (usually from the MB not being properly propped up on those stupid plastic spacers).

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Try these if you already haven't.

1) Open the case make sure up have power going to the PC. Check to see if there is a green light on the mother board.

2) Check if the cable from the power button to the mother board is connected.

3) When plugging in the power supply check to see if the power supply turns on for a moment. I've seen some power supplys do this.
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I had something similar. I have an external 2.0 USB hub and it came unplugged. The 2.o was drawing so much power from the computer it would not turn on. Maybe your problem is similar?

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Does the fan even begin to try to budge when you hit the button?

Make sure the power supply is set for 110V 60hz (I've seen some switched for non US voltage before).

Beyond that, every time I've personally had this sort of a problem it was due to a short w/ the case (usually from the MB not being properly propped up on those stupid plastic spacers).
Nope, the fans don't budge and the power supply is set for 110v. The mobo is where its supposed to be and the spacers are on right.

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Try these if you already haven't.

1) Open the case make sure up have power going to the PC. Check to see if there is a green light on the mother board.

2) Check if the cable from the power button to the mother board is connected.

3) When plugging in the power supply check to see if the power supply turns on for a moment. I've seen some power supplys do this.
1) No green light. I know the one you are talking about, but its not on right now. Hmmmm.....

2) Yep it is plugged in firm.

3) Nope, the fan doesn't move at all when I plug the cable into the back.



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I had something similar. I have an external 2.0 USB hub and it came unplugged. The 2.o was drawing so much power from the computer it would not turn on. Maybe your problem is similar?

If not slide the fork tubes up to compensate.

I unplugged everything except the monitor, keyboard, and mouse. Still nothing.


How high should I slide the fork tubes? I'm thinking 4 inches.

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Sounds like the motherboard might be dead. You need to test the power supply with either a VOM, tester, or another computer. If the PSU is good, I'd say mobo=bad.

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The old PSU is pretty old and won't power the new mobo, cpu, and graphics card.

Everything was working perfectly a few weeks ago. I haven't touched the PC until now and it won't turn on. Very odd, isn't it?

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Sounds like the motherboard might be dead. You need to test the power supply with either a VOM, tester, or another computer. If the PSU is good, I'd say mobo=bad.
I guess I'll go buy a VOM. Can I get one a Best Buy?

Also, I've never used one, how do I test for power?

I hope the mobo isn't bad. That's such a PITA to change out.

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Try and run the PC bare bones. Nothing attached to it. No expansion cards (if any), no RAM, just the PSU and motherboard. That right there should eliminate it to one or the other.

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I guess I'll go buy a VOM. Can I get one a Best Buy?

Also, I've never used one, how do I test for power?

I hope the mobo isn't bad. That's such a PITA to change out.
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Provided you PS doesn't have a replaceable fuse thats burned out, you have a bad PS. Just because it's new doesn't mean it can't come DOA. If it was the mainboard, you'd at least get some fan activity or some sign of life.

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Sounds like a bad Power Supply. Normally, when motherboards go bad you will still have power for the case, nothing happens on the screen. He said he gets nothing when he presses the power button.

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Yeah, I'm really thinking its the PS. I bought it at Fry's and I'm looking for the receipt. I have the original box, so hopefully they'll let me take it back and get a new one.

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Chills, if you have blown multiple PS, make sure you have your computer connected to a good surge protector. I had a spike come through once that fried my power supply instantly because I had a crappy surge protector.

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I've got a really good surge protector. My Xbox is connected to it as well as a few other important things.

I'll be making a Fry's run in a little bit. I found the receipt. Hopefully that's all it is. The PS is a lot easier to swap out than a mobo.

EDIT: Fry's says I'll have to go through Antec since it's been more than 30 days since I bought it.

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I've got a really good surge protector. My Xbox is connected to it as well as a few other important things.

I'll be making a Fry's run in a little bit. I found the receipt. Hopefully that's all it is. The PS is a lot easier to swap out than a mobo.

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Yes it is, just in case, get that XP CD ready .
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I submitted the warranty form to Antec. Now I probably have to wait a month to get this resolved.

At least I have the Xbox.


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The old PSU is pretty old and won't power the new mobo, cpu, and graphics card.

Everything was working perfectly a few weeks ago. I haven't touched the PC until now and it won't turn on. Very odd, isn't it?
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I know you said it worked before, I am just curious. What is the watt rating on the PS?

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To use a voltmeter, turn the knob to DC voltage. DC is indicated by a straight line and a dotted line. A/C shows a sign wave. To check the voltage between two points in a circuit, put the black lead on one point and the red lead on the other. It really doesn't matter which, the only difference is that it will show a negative voltage which doesn't usually matter. For the power supply, put the black lead on the black wire on the main power supply connector. Put the red wire on the other wires. Yellow = 12V, Red = 5V, Orange = -5V, Blue is -12V. As long as the black lead is on the black wire, the minus signs will match up.
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Sometimes power supplies have their own on/off switches. I'd check for that also.

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