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Gingerman 8/18/2010

OK, I'm going to try to make the Wednesday evening test and tune at Gingerman next week 8/18/2010. They run 5:30-8:30 and you get 3-4 sessions for $60. I'll be leaving the south burbs, Oak Lawn most likely, around 1pm and I should have room for 1-2 others in the trailer if anyone wants to hook up for a ride.

http://www.gingermanraceway.com/even...st-and-tune-32

I've gone to a few of these and they are really great, cheap days. You're back in the Chitown area by about 10:30 pm so it's not even a really late night. Generally there are 5-12 bikes there total so it's not very crowded on track either.

There is not ambulance service on site for these events but they are pretty laid back events so if you do decide to come out don't expect to put in too many really hot laps, just ride for fun and come home safe.

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Hmmmm. I think I will see if I can squeeze outta work early for this
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My buddy Poke does a # of these - he is on here.. I'd ping him about it.

I would also like to hit one or two of them, although that day will be impossible as the boss is out of town and I am covering the place alone
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My buddy Poke does a # of these - he is on here.. I'd ping him about it.

I would also like to hit one or two of them, although that day will be impossible as the boss is out of town and I am covering the place alone
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Just a quick update...the weather looks awesome for wednesday! 79 high, and sunny.

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ha...wednesday TnT at Gingerman ROCKS!

We rode the new corners, which are pretty cool because they add a new high speed left to the game and a really smooth, long right that leads you onto the back straight with a ton of speed. A nice addition to the track IMO.

Huge turnout tonight too, say 25 bikes which is 2-3x the norm. 1/2 of these were guys/gals on motards.

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did they get rid of the ravine on the outside of the addition? that part freaks me out thru there

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I never saw the ravine on the outside, but there was one on the inside of the addition. Though, I don't remember looking to the outside ever.

They do still need to add permanent curbing to the extension but as it is it's very smooth and sticky.

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if you were to run off in the extension youd be going down hill offroad(ravine) I was there the weekend they opened it i think and it was unnerving seeing that and knowing there was no corner worker nearby either

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did they get rid of the ravine on the outside of the addition? that part freaks me out thru there
That part freaks you out?
What about the hole in (what was?) 11
What the hell? They "fixed it" and it was twice as bad the next time I saw it - what did they do, use a race car to pack down the asphalt?

It's a smaller but deeper hole than T1 at Blackhawk - and right about in the same place on the corner. Something spooky about having the track go from somewhere around 40' wide to effectively 4' wide at the apex of the first corner right after the main straight
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I think that is the ultimate light weight or motard track in the area. It has a sweet layout. Just repave that baby!

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IDK - t11 leading to the front straight doesn't bother me. Yes, there's a weird spot in the new pavement there but it's pretty smooth and still much faster than the old dip.

Greg - I really want a motard but there were several there last night, like maybe 10 of them, and I'm not sure it's tight enough to really have that much fun on one after riding with them. Maybe if you're really fast in the turns but I"m thinking if I do get a tard that I'll only be hitting the kart tracks with it.

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IDK - t11 leading to the front straight doesn't bother me. Yes, there's a weird spot in the new pavement there but it's pretty smooth and still much faster than the old dip.

Greg - I really want a motard but there were several there last night, like maybe 10 of them, and I'm not sure it's tight enough to really have that much fun on one after riding with them. Maybe if you're really fast in the turns but I"m thinking if I do get a tard that I'll only be hitting the kart tracks with it.
I haven't been there since Pridmore - maybe they cleaned it up some.
It was pretty bad after they fixed it - I think they patched it and waited a day or two before they let the cars back out.

There were some guys turning really good times on the big SM's - I guess it depends what you are referring to when you are thinking SM - the 250's with street tires or something like an SXV or 990/690SMC - those are almost on par with SV650's
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That part freaks you out?
What about the hole in (what was?) 11
What the hell? They "fixed it" and it was twice as bad the next time I saw it - what did they do, use a race car to pack down the asphalt?

It's a smaller but deeper hole than T1 at Blackhawk - and right about in the same place on the corner. Something spooky about having the track go from somewhere around 40' wide to effectively 4' wide at the apex of the first corner right after the main straight
you talking about the dip in the apex? if so that one only bothered me when i was in the wrong place


if youre on line and close to the inside curbing it almost feels like banking

if youre outside the line it definately helps pop the front end up in the air

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you talking about the dip in the apex? if so that one only bothered me when i was in the wrong place


if youre on line and close to the inside curbing it almost feels like banking

if youre outside the line it definately helps pop the front end up in the air
The last time I was there it was very similar to 1 at BH
You had the curbing, then a few feet of good pavement and then it was tore up, there was loose asphalt and what looked to me like a chicago pothole (ok.. a small chicago pothole )

Admittedly I was going through there flat out and I need glasses - so it might have been a pile of ants on a sucker some kid left there

Yes it was fine if you were exactly on the line, that's what I meant about the track going from so wide to so narrow - but if all we were worried about on race tracks was "the line" then they could save a lot of money and start making them 3' wide.

You know what I am talking about - even after you go through it 20 times, it's still unnerving seeing it there - and it distracts you. Just sucks when something is right off the line, obviously you don't want to be that far off of the apex but it's nice to know the track is there
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IDK - t11 leading to the front straight doesn't bother me. Yes, there's a weird spot in the new pavement there but it's pretty smooth and still much faster than the old dip.

Greg - I really want a motard but there were several there last night, like maybe 10 of them, and I'm not sure it's tight enough to really have that much fun on one after riding with them. Maybe if you're really fast in the turns but I"m thinking if I do get a tard that I'll only be hitting the kart tracks with it.
Not having much tard time, you may be right. So it's a great 125 250 or SV track. Repave it! Haha. It's easy for me to say, I"m not paying for it.

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Not having much tard time, you may be right. So it's a great 125 250 or SV track. Repave it! Haha. It's easy for me to say, I"m not paying for it.
Even the new section still has the lines
they aren't an issue and are very smooth right now - but who knows how long it will be till they are like the rest of the track.
The new section is also (what seems to me at least, maybe it's just new) a very different type of asphalt

The older sections of the track are very rough and abrasive while the new section seems to have smaller grained asphalt and is very smooth
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Even the new section still has the lines
they aren't an issue and are very smooth right now - but who knows how long it will be till they are like the rest of the track.
The new section is also (what seems to me at least, maybe it's just new) a very different type of asphalt

The older sections of the track are very rough and abrasive while the new section seems to have smaller grained asphalt and is very smooth
Very true. I give the new pavment 5 years before the seams are as bad as the rest of the track but I doubt it'll be as abrasive. It is kinda like two different tracks right now.

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I haven't been there since Pridmore - maybe they cleaned it up some.
It was pretty bad after they fixed it - I think they patched it and waited a day or two before they let the cars back out.

There were some guys turning really good times on the big SM's - I guess it depends what you are referring to when you are thinking SM - the 250's with street tires or something like an SXV or 990/690SMC - those are almost on par with SV650's
They had everything there yesterday. DRZ to 990's. I don't really know how the fastest guys there did but they didn't seem to really hold any chance against the sportbikes with as fast as some sections of the track are. That back section going into the extension is pretty fast now too and the SM's struggle to get enough speed going through there to make it...well...fun.

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if anybody is on their way up there for a T&T night, PM me. i'm an hour south and try to get up as frequently as possible, just to stay loose. apparently there were about 15 motorcycles yesterday, which is far more than the norm. the woman that watches the start/finish is always a great help and told my buddy yesterday that next season, they plan to dedicate one of the test and tune nights to motorcycles only.

the regulars seem to be myself and 2 friends, a guy on a 2 stroke kawi, a gsxr 750, and a few brightly painted gsxr 600s.
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as for the new turn 10, it's been a blast! we've only had the chance to ride it twice, as they've had trouble with the contractors taking care of some work that caused flooding. when it IS being run, it's a blast. i agree it can be a bit unnerving not seeing anything off the edge of the track, but you forget all about it by the time you set up for the turn. i just remember to aim to the right of that plant at the top of the hill and let 'er rip!
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