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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old 08-12-2010, 05:27 PM Thread Starter
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Ok, so i just wanted your opinion on my tire wear. can you tell anything about how i ride by the wear? to me it looks clean, not as much of the bluish burn looking hue to the edges as some of you have. no cold or hot tearing(that my amateur eye can tell) does this look like im not driving out of the corners hard?

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your rear rim is dented

other than that they look a lot like my tires so im interested to hear what people say

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lol. yeah the dent is from the..cough..incident..cough..thanks matt :thumbs. i was told at the track that im probably not driving hard out of corners, which is true, i have a smooth, gradual increase in throttle to WOT after turn in to exit.
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I agree with everything above ( even if I have no clou...)... get your rim fixed over the wintertime... or find a new one...

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i have a smooth, gradual increase in throttle to WOT after turn in to exit.
you should still be on the brakes after turn in. adding throttle while adding lean angle will eventually put you on your head. maybe that's not what you meant, but that's how it kinda sounds.

as for the tire wear, it doesn't seem like you're getting on the throttle very hard until the bike is upright.

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I agree with everything above ( even if I have no clou...)... get your rim fixed over the wintertime... or find a new one...
yeah, i plan on doing that.

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you should still be on the brakes after turn in. adding throttle while adding lean angle will eventually put you on your head. maybe that's not what you meant, but that's how it kinda sounds.

as for the tire wear, it doesn't seem like you're getting on the throttle very hard until the bike is upright.
i tried that in the later sessions, trail braking, since im a newb i don't wanna push too far as i don't know how much trail braking i can do on stockies. unlike that video that was posted last week of a yamaha test rider that was on front brakes at the turns, amazing rider.

and what i meant was as soon as i am leaning i am adding throttle smoothly. (keith code said "Once the throttle is cracked on it is rolled on evenly, smoothly and constantly throughout the remainder of the turn") i thought adding throttle will make the bike go upright, not add lean. am i mistaken. keith code and wally (stt N coach) said so. just looking for verification.
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adding throttle will tend to stand the bike up; but if you the rider are still telling the bike to lean more into the corner youre asking the tires to do 2 things at once, handle power adn turn the bike, eventually you will run out of grip doing this and like snowbiz said you will end up on your head

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braking to the apex is OK (trail braking). Once at the apex rolling onto the throttle to drive out of the turn (while decreasing lean angle) is the way to go.

Adding throttle at the beginning of the turn and progressively adding more throttle is not going to help, Maintaining a steady throttle to the apex, then adding throttle after the apex while decreasing lean angle is OK. Of course the real way to go is braking (trail braking) to the apex and then accelerating out. Either be on the brakes or on the throttle. Taking it slow is a smart move though

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braking to the apex is OK (trail braking). Once at the apex rolling onto the throttle to drive out of the turn (while decreasing lean angle) is the way to go.

Adding throttle at the beginning of the turn and progressively adding more throttle is not going to help, Maintaining a steady throttle to the apex, then adding throttle after the apex while decreasing lean angle is OK. Of course the real way to go is braking (trail braking) to the apex and then accelerating out. Either be on the brakes or on the throttle. Taking it slow is a smart move though
gotcha. thats what i've been doing. ill learn trail braking once i move into the I territory. but yeah i've been taking it way slow. my coach in group 3 in N said when he followed me i was smooth and consistent, form was good, just that i was braking and slowing down a little more than i should be after the long straights (my attempt not to go in too hot) don't wanna do what bobby fong did at laguna seca and tuck the front in the corner from too much brakes at that speed. he said we were also lapping group 1 in N too which was cool.

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lol. yeah the dent is from the..cough..incident..cough..thanks matt :thumbs.
LOL, no problem bro, I told you then I'm just making up for being a bad person years ago. Pay it forward.

As far as your tire wear, looks good, don't try to go too fast too soon, just keep gradually pushing the brake markers back and throttle earlier. I"m looking forward to riding on the track with you.

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LOL, no problem bro, I told you then I'm just making up for being a bad person years ago. Pay it forward.

As far as your tire wear, looks good, don't try to go too fast too soon, just keep gradually pushing the brake markers back and throttle earlier. I"m looking forward to riding on the track with you.
wow..i must be tired...when i first read it i thought it said, don't try to go FART too soon... ..fosho man.. whens ur next one?
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From your tire wear I would say you have an R6...

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gotcha. thats what i've been doing. ill learn trail braking once i move into the I territory. but yeah i've been taking it way slow. my coach in group 3 in N said when he followed me i was smooth and consistent, form was good, just that i was braking and slowing down a little more than i should be after the long straights (my attempt not to go in too hot) don't wanna do what bobby fong did at laguna seca and tuck the front in the corner from too much brakes at that speed. he said we were also lapping group 1 in N too which was cool.

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IMO you'll want to learn trail breaking before getting into "I" group. But take it at your own pace. Once you start to use tail braking you will see how much it can benefit you and/or your ride style. Has anyone explained to you trail breaking and how to do it? It's a feel and practice thing (at least for me) and you get better with it the more you use it.

How many trackdays have you done? Just curious.

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From your tire wear I would say you have an R6...

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You should trade him your gsxr and you'll be set.

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IMO you'll want to learn trail breaking before getting into "I" group. But take it at your own pace. Once you start to use tail braking you will see how much it can benefit you and/or your ride style. Has anyone explained to you trail breaking and how to do it? It's a feel and practice thing (at least for me) and you get better with it the more you use it.

How many trackdays have you done? Just curious.
yeah i remember and know what it is. but its the actual application i need to learn. i have 3 track days under my belt. all in N group, but have progressed to the faster group of N..but am still slow before i started the trackdays i would watch the keith code twist 2 dvd over and over but none of it really stuck because i wasnt able to apply it. now i am trying little by little.
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i know...do eeet!...i love my r6 though...its been through hell and back
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i know...do eeet!...i love my r6 though...its been through hell and back
Don't worry. You are Asian and I think Flip...you will be fast!
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IMO you'll want to learn trail breaking before getting into "I" group. But take it at your own pace. Once you start to use tail braking you will see how much it can benefit you and/or your ride style. Has anyone explained to you trail breaking and how to do it? It's a feel and practice thing (at least for me) and you get better with it the more you use it.

How many trackdays have you done? Just curious.


i see what you mean now. i've never braked so hard that my rear was wiggling around like that. thats coz im still a newb. lol.
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