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post #1 of 35 (permalink) Old 08-20-2010, 06:05 PM Thread Starter
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So why did you start racing?

So i thought after Nick's thread, I thought someone should ask why did you start racing?

This last July CCS Blackhawk round was my first shot at racing. I've been doing trackdays since 2004 and to tell the truth, I never thought I would put myself at the level of risk that racing could provide. But after becoming a NESBA Advanced rider and CR, I wanted to see how I fared against others in a real racing environment. Riding in our advanced group is very challenging with the level of racing talent mixed in and I felt that I needed something to boost my motivation to get faster. Yes I could turn lap after lap at our advanced pace but when it came to making really aggressive passes and riding with a sense of urgency, I found that racing was the perfect place to learn and take my riding to another level. Basically I wanted to improve my skills without the fatigue of CRing and the restriction of "polite" passing. And boy did racing help. I've been turning my fastest laps ever since and my confidence in my skills is higher than its ever been. I'm still not the fastest but I enjoy putting my head down and chasing the faster guys now. The advanced sessions that I ride now are time for me to practice my race craft and I've found a new motivation to ride every one that I can so that I can be better prepared for the next time I race. I'm not sure what this new race addiction will lead to but my main goals for now are self improvement and having fun.

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Ha - For me, it was part of the deal I got on my Track Tard - If I wanted the bike at that price at that time, I HAD to race and have never once 2nd guessed my decision to do it

My only regret is not doing this sooner - Done more track days then I can remember on SuMo and Sport Bikes - Can say with 100% confidence that none of them hold a candle to that feeling you get on the grid when your buddies are all around you and ready to rip when the flag goes up - Engines revving - Elbows up - Off the seat and on your toes - Flag goes up, you exhale and hope for the best going into T1

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I started racing for many of the same reasons Nolan stated. I was in the NESBA advanced group and wasn't really getting any faster and wanted to break through to another level.

It worked for me...I went faster than I was able to at trackdays and that translated into running faster laps just playing around in the Advanced group at NESBA events, once I got comfortable at those new speeds I was able to step it up a couple notches the next time I raced.

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I was already bitten by the motorcycle bug and went to my first flat track race with friends and I was just awestruck...I was about 14 or 15 and I knew that it was something I HAD to do. It was a struggle because my folks were just dead set against me ever owning a motorcycle let alone racing them, but I did all the things kids do when their folks forbid them to do something and there's no stopping the kid. When I turned 18 I just brought a bike home and announced I was going racing...I expected a big fight and to be thrown out of the house, but I guess I wore them down or they just realized they weren't going to stop me and they accepted it. Neither my mother or my father ever saw me turn a wheel on a race track.
I raced flat track seriously for about 11 years with a couple of half hearted years thrown in and during that time I ice raced, rode enduros, cross country, and did alot of recreational dirt biking that may as well have been racing, all the while street riding and touring too. After I started to leave flat track, I got into drag racing bikes for a while...I wanted to take it to more than just the E.T. Bracket/sportsman level and was about a thin hair away from building a Super Modified Sportster with the intent of moving up to Pro Stock when the money suddenly got used for a great opportunity and got better spent on buying a house. I'm hoping to get back to drag racing in ET or an index class next season maybe.
I continued to dabble in a cross country race here and an enduro there and an occasional romp at the dragstrip on my Suzuki 4 when I discovered AHRMA. I originally set out to go road racing, something I always wanted to do but couldn't afford while I was flat tracking. While I was flat tracking I could race 2 to 4 times a week from May through to early October...Road racers got to race once a month and some of those required you travel 1000 miles or more! In AHRMA I found that vintage MX, Cross Country, flat track and trials gave me much more bang for my buck. I don't flat track anymore...if I crashed like I did 30+ years ago in a flat track race they'd be picking me up with paper towels and Q tips! It's a sport where things happen fast and hard!
I've been racing a long time and I don't intend to stop until I absolutely have to. I don't get out much as I'd like, but I'll be at a few vintage events and other select events before the season is out...The vintage MX at Mid Ohio stoked the fire once again. I don't go very fast these days, but I have a blast and I have enough experience that the fast guys can pass me cleanly and safely without having to worry about me taking them out.
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Got my first sportbike when I graduated high school. My dad rode it home, lol. I knew I wanted to get on the track the moment I saw it on tv, but I was a broke college student. I went to LCR and raced the month after I graduated from college and got a job. I raced to get on the track. That was the only way back then. There weren't too many trackday orgs like today.
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I never heard of a trackday, when I went to get licensed.
If you wanted to get on the track, you raced... Simple really.

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honestly.. its cause everyone at trackdays kept saying "you are good, you should try racing"

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I think if more folks tried it, they'd like it.

I 'splained my reasons in the other thread. If every rider could feel what I feel out there... the grids would be PACKED.
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I never heard of a trackday, when I went to get licensed.
If you wanted to get on the track, you raced... Simple really.

To this day, I do not understand the lust for people to do trackdays.
Its like Masturbating in public for everyone to watch, just with tire warmers.

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I knew I wanted to do it but never knew how to get into it. Its not like now with the internet and trackdays. Me and 10 of my friends started racing pretty much the same year and did it fo about 6 years straight. Some of us dropped out early but I stuck with it. I haven't raced in years but I have things set up to do it next year. I miss being fast and I can tell my old ass is slowing down since I stopped racing.
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When I started riding MX, there was goofing off in the woods, but there was no riding on an MX race track, unless it was a practice session, or a race. So, I went racing.

When I started riding sportbikes on the track, track days were the best value per minute of track time, bar none. If I wanna improve, there are plenty of faster folks at track days that I can chase or can help me improve, or I can go to a riding school like Freddie Spencer (now Yamaha's YCRS school) and get coached by the best coaches there are.

At my age, I could care less about racing. Lower time on the track, at a higher cost, and a higher risk. Seems like bad math to me all the way around. It makes no sense to me at all.

Don't get me wrong, I used to love to race. Now, I get far more pleasure out of helping another rider improve than I do in running away from them on the track.

I don't hold anything against the racers, and I wish them all that they desire. It amazes me the mentality that racers seem to have in general against track day riders.

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I got tired of running from the cops, and in general, it wasn't much of a challenge.

Really the answer for me, is that I always want to take something to it's limit, and find the pinnacle of my abilities. Racing pushes you to find that pinnacle, and gets you there quicker. Racing has not only helped me get faster on the sportbike, but dirtbike, mountain bike, running, and triathlons as well. I would be much slower in all these disciplines if it weren't for competition.

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Lots of good responses. Hopefully more people will chime in after today's races.

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Ok well here is my input since I got my Cherry popped... is just because a valid answer? lol


ok a lot of times on track days I was more thinking ok lets take it easy and let that guy pass, besides getting you in danger you are not going to gain anything... today I went in turn 1 knowing it is about something.... I was in a total trackday-mood the first few laps, than I got stuffed in the Bus Stop and almost went off roading. This pissed me off extremely, especially knowing who it was, but that sparked my hunting instinct and I just did what I had to do, I passed him again and ran the bike the way I should have since the first lap. ( Ed, thanks I needed that push).
I finished with dropping two seconds on my laptimes, and the knowledge that go means go and a felling that I can't describe.
My last race topped this felling when I picked up half the field of expert racers in that class...

It's like a blut lust and I learned today way more than I thought...

I talked to Brian Blume today and he actually made a point to me, which makes sense, you race and push your limit and get faster and stuff, than you start seeing track days as practice to get comfortable with your new speed and line. In the next race your level is higher than last time, since you comfortable with a faster speed than the last race. In the race you push a bit more and pickup things.... and so on...

That feeling when you get the checkered flag and you have people behind you or even win, is awesome it feels good...

yes I know, I'm still hot from the track, but it is an awesome thing to accomplish in your life.
anyone remember when I almost gave this whole track stuff up ... this sounds different huh? Thanks to everyone! now I just need to stop running sandbagger classes and get the 600 to spin!
One thing I like to add, I did riders clinic with Jason Farrell as coach, and I have to say I didn't meet anyone who was compassionate about this sport, I only could pickup half of what he said, but he knows his shit...

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And now the most important one when can I do it again?

and where can I get a hot Pit-girl...

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I have to say I didn't meet anyone who was compassionate about this sport, I only could pickup half of what he said...
Huh?! A little confused here.

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Huh?! A little confused here.

(congrats on your race btw)
Well I only met you for a few hours at the time... He was talking bike/track/racing from yesterday morning until last night when I went home...

Thanks.

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(congrats on your race btw)
LOL I think Germany is just typing like he talks...You only understand 1/4 of what he says.

I think he meant something different than he typed.

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I think he meant something different than he typed.
I just realized I missed a few words...

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I think maybe he meant "passionate"? Congratulations on your (very successful!) debut!!!

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