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First time to Putnam

I am heading to Putnam for the first time in October. I have been to BHF, Gingerman, and Gratten. Anything special I should know about Putnam? I know you can't camp there, so where is the best place to stay? Where are the good places to pit? Anything out of the ordinary I should bring? Can I leave anything at the track overnight or should it all be taken away with me? I have been watching videos of trackdays and I hopefully will have a good idea of the track layout and lines before I get there. Is there anything I should know about the track that isn't obvious.

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I am heading to Putnam for the first time in October. I have been to BHF, Gingerman, and Gratten. Anything special I should know about Putnam? I know you can't camp there, so where is the best place to stay? Where are the good places to pit? Anything out of the ordinary I should bring? Can I leave anything at the track overnight or should it all be taken away with me? I have been watching videos of trackdays and I hopefully will have a good idea of the track layout and lines before I get there. Is there anything I should know about the track that isn't obvious.

Thanks for any advice you can give me.
Putnam is a very fast and flowing track with a very abrasive surface when hot. Turn 4 and 8 are the only left turns and can be slick in the mornings when the track is cold and has a coat of moisture. People who camp stay at Cloverdale RV park. There is a Days Inn, Econolodge and Holiday Inn in Cloverdale as well. Everyone pits on either side of the main pit lane. The track does not allow entry until 7am EST on Saturday so everyone lines up on the driveway coming into the track. Nothing out of the ordinary needed. You can leave everything their Saturday night for Sundays trackday but they lock the track up at 6pm so don't forget anything. Turn 4 is slightly off camber which never shows on video and it adds to the decreased traction in the mornings. The only hard braking zone is into the Turn 7 bus stop. The rest of the track flow is in segments that depend on good lines to set up the following turn sequences: 1-2-3-4 then 5-6-7 and 8-9-10. Turn one is very fast. Hope this helps.

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- Putnam is freaking awesome
- Putnam has GREAT traction (elbeit, on only one side of your tires as mentioned since its right, right, right, right, right, right, and somewhere there's a left or two thrown in)
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Putnam is a very fast and flowing track with a very abrasive surface when hot. Turn 4 and 8 are the only left turns and can be slick in the mornings when the track is cold and has a coat of moisture. People who camp stay at Cloverdale RV park. There is a Days Inn, Econolodge and Holiday Inn in Cloverdale as well. Everyone pits on either side of the main pit lane. The track does not allow entry until 7am EST on Saturday so everyone lines up on the driveway coming into the track. Nothing out of the ordinary needed. You can leave everything their Saturday night for Sundays trackday but they lock the track up at 6pm so don't forget anything. Turn 4 is slightly off camber which never shows on video and it adds to the decreased traction in the mornings. The only hard braking zone is into the Turn 7 bus stop. The rest of the track flow is in segments that depend on good lines to set up the following turn sequences: 1-2-3-4 then 5-6-7 and 8-9-10. Turn one is very fast. Hope this helps.
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Anything out of the ordinary I should bring?
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another quick bit of advice... if you're gonna be there for 2 days, have Joe at Turn One flip your rear after the first day. It's a $20 investment that'll save you way more than that in tire life - especially if you're on race rubber

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Thanks everyone for the advice. I will definitely read Tom's rant on the NESBA board. Also, having Joe flip the rear tire is a great idea. This may be my last weekend on these tires anyways. I am looking forward to the weekend since everyone seems to love the track.

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blarney, whats the wisdom behind the invert start?

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Inverted start - Grid the slowest riders in front, fastest riders in back.

Makes for a lot more entertainment and close riding for the beginning of the session until the faster riders make it to the front. The narrower the range in skill, the more fun it is since it makes for close riding the full session.

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Tom- Thanks for the video. Well at least my bike already knows its way around. Though, it will probably be saying "gosh, I remember going much faster last time I was here."

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Inverted start - Grid the slowest riders in front, fastest riders in back.

Makes for a lot more entertainment and close riding for the beginning of the session until the faster riders make it to the front. The CLOSER the range in skill, the more fun it is since it makes for close riding the full session.

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so is the inverted start a normal thing that you guys do?
is it like an A group exclusive thing or is it done in all of the groups?

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It's an A-Group exercise. Pace, Passing and line-holding practice.


In a "normal" start ( fastest at front ) the fast guys just walk away..... a while into the session they
may catch the back of the field and have to pass a few slower riders as they lap them.... like a race.

If you invert the start..... the fast guys have to pass everyone to get to the front..... this means you
all get traffic practice, passing practice, practice being passed, holding your lines..... etc.


And have Tons of fun.



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It does look fun, and definately a learning experience for bot the slow and fast guys.

passing practice for the faster guys and more opportunities to follow someone faster for the slow guys

I like the idea alot

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