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CCS/WERA need clarification

Is CCS or WERA considered professional racing or is it amateur?
I need to know for insurance reasons.

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no you need to be fast to win, just gotta show up to race

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Doesn't matter what we interpret "Professional" as. It matters how your insurance interprets Professional. Don't ask us. Call and ask them. It's not like you're going tip them off to some big secret. They know people do this stuff.

Technically if you race and do well and win contingency, you've been compensated, so you're a paid or professional rider.

I'm pro! I won $100 in team challenge. So now I can put it on my tax return and write off all my expenses.

Call and ask an under writer at your insurance provider. If they don't cover racing, call Brandon Parish (Frequents the WERA board) and get a supplemental rider.

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I don't think that is true. CCS and WERA are club racing. AMA is PRO racing. Its defined in the rule books I beleive
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Im talking with insurance people about new policies and something that was excluded was professional racing but not ameteur

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Greg's right... if you receive compensation for an activity, you are a professional.

A better example would be college or high-school football vs. NFL.

CCS, WERA, CRA etc. are considered "club racing" - kind of like comparing the Kane County Cougars to the Chicago Cubs.

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so as long as i dont have sponsors/collect contingency it stays amateur status?

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well that just encourages my laziness not to sign up

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So if I collect money for being the fastest beer drinker at the bar that night I am a professional. I don't think thats how it works
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But Steve, aren't you a professional beer drinker?

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When I had to check into this for AMA racing, here is what I found. AMA is considered pro, and anything else is not. Main reasons being, most people in AMA are either supporting themselves wholly on their racing salary, or hoping to, and have set up their "business" as such. The intent is to make a living off racing in that organization for almost all racers. Club racing is considered a hobby, and most, if not all, racers do not support themselves on that or even hope to. It's not even a viable option based on the structure. The fact that you can and sometimes do win a few bucks is only relevant in taxes, not insurance.

Maybe things have changed, but that is what I found out when I had to check into it for health insurance and life insurance.

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