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post #1 of 17 (permalink) Old 10-17-2003, 11:27 AM Thread Starter
 
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Turning question

I guess this should go under a different forum but i think it is important and applied probably just as often on the track. When you are in the turn, and your bike starts to wander torwards the outside of that curve how do you usually adjust for that? In other words... Bring your self back into the inside corner of the turn? Thanks in advance.
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Push harder on the clip on the side you are turning towards.
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lean more, countersteer, look where you want to go.

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look through the turn and give it some gas, if you have time. Sometimes you're in too hot and have to stand it up to brake or roll through the grass. But getting on the gas(slightly) helps you complete the turn and reduces chances of washing the front.

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Vcook. give it more throttle?
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to add to jenova's question, when in a turn and realizing you are drifting towards the outside. if i start to push the turn a bit tighter to bring it back in, are there any hints or signs that you are getting close to going too far? meaning will the tire start to skip a bit or will the peg start scraping. I am always nervous that i will take the bike so far in the turn that i will pass the limit of the contact of the tire and lay the bike down without meaning to.

any help here would be great.
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Like said before, just "LOOK" through the turn, if you start to go to the outside "LOOK" harder.

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First off, where you want to be in the lane differs between the street and the track due to possible traffic considerations. Learning how to properly apex the turn is important. Watch other, more experienced riders, as they set up for a turn. You'll notice that sometimes they turn in late and other times earlier. This is so they don't have to double, triple (sixpence) apex the corner. What Kruz said is correct. More pressure on the clip-on in the direction of the turn. More lean in that direction will also be appropriate to a degree. On the street, always stay far enough away from the center to allow for an oncomming car that crosses the line. Especially so in a blind turn. Right blind turn = early turn in. Left blind turn = late turn in. I'm sure some of the racers can get a little more in depth on this with you. Hope this helps a little.

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Vcook. give it more throttle?
steady throttle.

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SloRoll: thanks helps alot! But waht is this clip u speak of.. I remember watching Ryan Fizzer600, and maybe it was just my perception but it looks like he was falling in right before the turns. amybe it was different bikes but it looked weird to me. WEird, but something tells me he's on the right and im just totally out there.
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SloRoll: thanks helps alot! But waht is this clip u speak of..

A clip-on is what sport bikes have instead of a handle bar. Same thing, though. Its where your handgrips are.

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Clip-on refers to the little handle bars that are "clipped" on to the forks in most sportbikes that are like the racers. As opposed to bars that are mounted above the triple-trees. Just think of them as the handle bars.

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to add to jenova's question, when in a turn and realizing you are drifting towards the outside. if i start to push the turn a bit tighter to bring it back in, are there any hints or signs that you are getting close to going too far? meaning will the tire start to skip a bit or will the peg start scraping. I am always nervous that i will take the bike so far in the turn that i will pass the limit of the contact of the tire and lay the bike down without meaning to.

any help here would be great.
From my experience, it almost felt like I was about to fall off the bike when I got my pegs to touch. So I think you'd be surprised how far you can lean it. When the peg feelers hit, that's a pretty good indication you've only got a few inches before hardparts start touching.
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Clip! thanks that all tied it in for me i got it Thanks alot guys
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clipon. its called a clipon. Dont call it a clip, people will look at you funny.

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My suggestion on the throttle was to roll some on, if you chop throttle when your all cranked over you slam weight to the front wheel and could wash it. Neutral throttle would work as well.

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From what I've experienced, the amount of lean that can be used in a turn on a modern sportbike is quite incredible. The tires on these bikes are just as incredible. A far cry from just a few years ago. If you enter a turn with enough speed and enough lean, you could cause the tires to slide. The probability of a tire sliding is increased as the temp goes down or way way up. It also increases on the street because of gunk on the road (water, grease, oil, sand, clay, rocks. etc,etc.). The knee draggin' turns you see on the track are not meant for the street. Don't get me wrong, they can be done(with luck and big cahones), but they leave little room for error. Save em for the track.

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