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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old 03-27-2011, 08:51 AM Thread Starter
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Stock tires OK for light track duty?

I have an SV650 mainly for track days, but I also recently got an 08 CBR1000RR with only 950 miles (only put 50 on it so far), and it has the stock Bridgestone BT-015's on it, barely broken in (huge chicken strips).

I want to do a track day or 2 on it, but not push it too hard and wad it up (that's what the SV650 is for). Could those mildly-used BT-105's do the job for a mild track day? I plan to erase the chix strips, but not push it very hard or get huge speed, just want to give it a few sessions, see which bike I like better on the track. I've heard great things on the BT-106's, but nothing on the OEM spec BT-015's. Soft enough? Quick enough warm up on a 60-65 degree track day? And again, for moderate use, not balls-out fastest lap.

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You should be fine. I think those also come std on the new zx6r. Running in novice? Just give the tires time to warm up, take the first lap and a half or two easy. Wouldn't buy new tires just to try the bike out. I ran Dunlop qualifiers for my first 4 track days, one in the rain. I think your tires are more sticky.

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what group do you run, how much track experience do you have?

Those tires will be less forgiving of mistakes, as will that bike. Also, you say you'll take it easy, but when you're actually out there and the adrenalin starts flowing will you really be as careful as you think?

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I don't know much about tires, but would anyone be worried about these tires starting to get hard from age? Being an 08, They could very well be a full 3 years old.

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Dont know you, dont know your riding style, but I dont think its a good idea. The available HP and handling characteristics of those two machines are completely different. If you do it, be VERY careful with your throttle hand - a literbike will put you on your head in a hurry, especially if the back breaks loose on a hard tire and youre not used to/ready for it.

Sorry for disagreeing, Nick, I am assuming that unlike you, the OP hasnt ridden a bazillion bikes and understands the differences.

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what group do you run, how much track experience do you have?

Those tires will be less forgiving of mistakes, as will that bike. Also, you say you'll take it easy, but when you're actually out there and the adrenalin starts flowing will you really be as careful as you think?
It will be novice, next track day will be my 4th. I plan to push hard with the SV650, but with the CBR1K I just plan to keep up with the group, lean some, give moderate gas, but keep it under 8/10ths or so. My own self-preservation instinct will likely keep me well within the bike's and tire's safety zone, but it's good to know the tires can take a decent thrashing anyway, just so I know I have some spare safety-net.

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Dont know you, dont know your riding style, but I dont think its a good idea. The available HP and handling characteristics of those two machines are completely different. If you do it, be VERY careful with your throttle hand - a literbike will put you on your head in a hurry, especially if the back breaks loose on a hard tire and youre not used to/ready for it.

Sorry for disagreeing, Nick, I am assuming that unlike you, the OP hasnt ridden a bazillion bikes and understands the differences.
I'm with you there, the whole reason I got the SV650 was to keep high-sides to a minimum. I have no plans to be twisting the wick hard coming out of corners on the CBR1K. Leaning, yes. Exploding out of corners, no. Not yet, not at my current level, and not with these tires. I have 24 years of street riding exp (I'm 40), maybe 200,000 miles total, owned a few literbikes (14 bikes total), just dipping more into track days now. I'm pretty sure I don't need to worry about going too crazy, but if the feedback is that BT-015's are a decent track-day tire for a novice group rider, I'm all good. For me, putting the CBR1K on the track is more for fun, the SV650 on the track is for improving.
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I'm with you there, the whole reason I got the SV650 was to keep high-sides to a minimum. I have no plans to be twisting the wick hard coming out of corners on the CBR1K. Leaning, yes. Exploding out of corners, no. Not yet, not at my current level, and not with these tires. I have 24 years of street riding exp (I'm 40), maybe 200,000 miles total, owned a few literbikes (14 bikes total), just dipping more into track days now. I'm pretty sure I don't need to worry about going too crazy, but if the feedback is that BT-015's are a decent track-day tire for a novice group rider, I'm all good. For me, putting the CBR1K on the track is more for fun, the SV650 on the track is for improving.
Then, by all means, set pressures and go. I had to chime in, dont know you and I would hate to see someone who wrings out an SV go out and try the same thing with a literbike.

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Remember that the literbike will have a lot more torque and will tend to break the rear loose quicker. Be very slow/smooth on the throttle (and smooth on loading the front brake) until you figure out what kind of traction these tires will afford you. Then ride within those limits.

I wouldn't worry about the strips. More body off the side = less lean for the speed = less risk to you and the bike. Chicken strips show good judgment.

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assuming begining track days, yes go for it
do not however plan to erase the chicken strips, the goal is to not lean as far as you can

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in your case, the stock tires might be one of your best options. if you plan on taking it easy, you have a better chance of staying within the optimal temperature range of the tires - as opposed to a street/track hybrid which might prefer a little more heat to work well. either way, it's gonna be fun when you take that beast out on the track after playin' around on your 650

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Use the tires you have. You could have the stickiest, freshest buns in the world and still get in all kinds of trouble on that bike. Have fun!
Yep! you might not be able to run and win a race, but you should be fine with the tires, just make sure the pressure is good, and go!

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Will do. Thanks everyone for the tips. On my last track day I was able to wipe the strips off the new PP 2ct's (love those tires) on my SV1000S, at a still moderate pace, so I think I will see the same thing this time, and still have some safety-net left in reserve. Just looking to have fun and learn, NOT crash.

and to get rid of...those...strips...
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taking it easy, any tires will do

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Why not get new tires and sell the old ones as take offs? If they are really that fresh, you should be able to get some good cash for them and get the tire you want.

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yeah right cheap sportbike motherfuckers wont give u five dollars for a tire if the sticker is torn. they will prolly try and make u pay them.

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I have that bike, and mine came with bridgestones which were changed out for 2CTs within the first month. those oem tires are slippy..

plus, if you are questioning those tires, it must be in your mind that they arent good. doubt in your machine is not a good thing to have at a trackday or race. you have to trust your equipment.
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Why not get new tires and sell the old ones as take offs? If they are really that fresh, you should be able to get some good cash for them and get the tire you want.
Not a bad idea. I sold a set of D208's a few months ago, had about 3000 miles on them but still looked decent, got $75 off CL.

With that idea, who's got this bike and what tires did you throw on that you really liked? I'd do PP 2ct's but I'm open to any with great reviews.
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Ive ran PP2CTs, Bridgestone BT002RS, and Im currently on BT003RS. If you plan on doing alot of trackdays, Id suggest the PP2CTs to start out with, as they last longer and the grip is very good, and once you get faster you step up to something stickier like the BT003s. I dont run tire warmers, and I ride on the road and this is the best combination Ive come up with.
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