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Want to race AHRMA

I'm looking for a bike someone might have rotting in the back corner of their garage. Pre 68 or pre 72 Japanese. What do you have? I'd like to slap something together to race in AHRMA at Road America the second week of June. Who is interested? Discuss...

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500 Premier: 500cc four-stroke OHV and OHC, or 750cc sidevalve machines built before the end of 1968.

500 Grand Prix: 500 Premier bikes with the additional restrictions of 285 lbs. dry, stock stroke and gear boxes restricted to 4 speeds.

350 Grand Prix: 350cc four-stroke machines; 350cc air-cooled, single-cylinder, two-strokes with no more than five speeds; 250cc two-stroke water-cooled singles; 250cc twin-cylinder air-cooled two-strokes with no more than six speeds. Machines must have been built before Dec. 31, 1968.

250 Grand Prix: 250cc four-stroke machines; 250cc air-cooled, maximum five-speed, single-cylinder two-strokes; 175cc two-stroke water-cooled singles; 175cc air-cooled, twin-cylinder, two-stroke machines with no more than six speeds. Machines must have been built before Dec. 31, 1968.

200 Grand Prix: This class combines a variety of engine designs and displacements between 125cc and 250cc, based on an index of performance.

Formula 750: Works 750cc four-stroke machines, including accurate replicas of Formula 750 machines of the early 1970s. Also includes machines not eligible for Sportsman 750.

Formula 500: Two-stroke and certain four-stroke machines up to 500cc grouped on an index-of-performance basis, with a Dec. 31, 1972, cutoff.

Formula 250: Two-stroke air-cooled machines, including singes up to 360cc and twins up to 250cc, with a Dec. 31, 1972, cutoff.

Formula 125: Certain machines up to 125cc, with a Dec. 31, 1972, cutoff.

Formula Vintage: Open to machines from 500 Premier, F-750, Formula 500 and Sportsman 750.

BEARS®: Certain two-cylinder machines built up through 1968 and competing under Formula 750 specifications.

Class C: Intended for AMA "Class C" machines up to and including those manufactured December 31, 1951, as a ‘51 model. Class C Handshift is a championship class run together with but scored separately from Class C.

Pre-1940 Grand Prix: 1940 and earlier Grand Prix or modified street machines, including 500cc single-cylinder OHV and OHC and 750cc sidevalve machines.

Classic Sixties: A class for 1960 and earlier (or like model) Grand Prix/Clubman 500cc four-stroke OHV and OHC machines, or 750cc sidevalve, in basically standard form. Plus 350cc OHV and OHC. Classic Sixties 650 is open to British and European OHC 650cc machines of the period and the Harley-Davidson KH.

Sportsman: Four-stroke, maximum three-cylinder street bike-based machines, divided into 350cc, 500cc and 750cc classes. The cutoff is Dec. 31, 1972.

Novice Historic Production 1972 and earlier production street machines with the standard OEM frame, swingarm, forks and handlebar mounts. Engines use the original OEM bore and stroke. Classes are Lightweight (four-strokes up to 500cc, 250cc two-strokes and certain 350cc two-strokes) and Heavyweight (four-strokes up to 750cc and 350-500cc two-strokes).

Sidecar: 750cc four-stroke, twin-cylinder, or 500cc two-stroke, air-cooled, twin-cylinder powerplants. Rules available from the AHRMA national office.

Vintage Superbike. AHRMA's newest roadrace category includes three classes for motorcycles built up to the 1982 model year and originally manufactured as street machines. Motorcycles are to be as close to "production" appearance as possible. Classes are Heavyweight (unlimited displacement twins and pushrod triples, and displacement-limited fours and sixes), Middleweight (unlimited displacement singles, with limited pushrod twins, OHC twins, pushrod triples and OHC fours) and Lightweight (singles, twins and multis using performance indexes for smaller bikes

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We may have a bike for the superbike class 1975 550F Hmmm??

this could be fun.

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Your best bet on such short notice would be to check out the AHRMA ads in their newsletter and online @ www.AHRMA.org to see what might be for sale. The premier and and Gran Prix classes are usually pretty expensive but Formula 750 and the Sportsman classes usually have some bikes that are reasonable in price and pretty close to race ready.
Another avenue I'd suggest is to call around (or better yet stop in) the various shops around that are active in AHRMA like Expert in Hobart Indiana or Framecrafters in Union IL. There are others and The Goodpastors at Expert (John, Bob or Wes) or Randy & Karsten at Framecrafters could point you to some of them.
With your experience you might want to avoid Novice Historic production because it's an entry level class for beginners but in every other class I'm sure you'll find enough competition to make you glad you tried AHRMA.
If you find a ride and enter RA, be sure to check out the Vintage MotoCross on Saturday...I'll be riding the #218 BSA in the +50 class.

PS...Don't rule out Brit bikes...Triumphs get pricey but BSA's and Nortons are also quite reasonable...you can do some pretty fun classes on them that you can't do on Jap bikes...like BEARS!

Good luck...hope to see you at some AHRMA events...AND...if you're going vintage racing don't miss AMA Vintage days at Mid-Ohio on July 22,23 & 24!

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We have an old YZ490 rotting in homers garage that needs a clutch mechanism.

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Hmm I'd forgotten the dirt bike racing.RA had me thinking road racing

that yz has a fresh motor although I've never heard it run I think it might

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this is why people think you are 50.

good luck!

you have a perfectly good SV, why u hatin' on CCS?

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A YZ 490 wouldn't fit the Vintage class but it might be eligible for the Post Vintage classes that will race on Sunday at RA and Mid Ohio. Mid Ohio is not AHRMA...It's just AMA, so some of the classes are a bit different but no one gets left out if the bikes meet the year cutoff dates.
I'm not trying to turn you away from road racing but there definately is more bang for your buck in vintage dirt racing IMHO.
Mid O even offers a vintage flat track at the fairgrounds across town on Friday night.

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I am 50???

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Old beats the alternative!

"Dirt is for racing on...Asphalt is for getting there" OR "Flat trackers go in deeper and come out harder... OR (With apologies to General MaCarthur) "Old motorcycle racers never die, they just slip off the groove and fade into the dust!

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haha nooo everyone thinks nick is an old man.
Is that because the apple doesn't fall far from the tree??

Old is contagious you'll catch it soon enough

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Well I have a nice '67 250 4T, with a fresh piston and rings sitting in a box.
With some tire love, that bike might be a good excuse to go to RA.

Out of curiosity, Super Dave asked if I was running my 2T with AHRMA.
What class would a 250 GP bike fit in?

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OP check it out

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I have a buddy that races AHRMA. He's got a lot of bikes and parts...enough to put together two or three trackable CB350's. Hit me up if you don't find anything and I'll get you in touch with him.

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So...This thread's been quiet for a few days...Any new developements on the impending assault on AHRMA racing?

"Dirt is for racing on...Asphalt is for getting there" OR "Flat trackers go in deeper and come out harder... OR (With apologies to General MaCarthur) "Old motorcycle racers never die, they just slip off the groove and fade into the dust!

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We got the OK from a team mate about the 550.Now we see how ambitious everyone is????

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I'm motivated. Just need to go get the 550 and prep it I guess. I assume that if we hit hard a couple nights we can have it stripped down, safety wired and have some number plates on it and it would be done. Maybe stiffin up the front forks and put some new oil in them.

Matt says it runs good so rock out. It becomes a race bike.

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Oh boy here we go.
We are going to put together a 550 Four that we will run in the middle weight class.
Also hoping to support Jack in the super moto Events.

Those AHMRA guys are going to hate us.

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Last year old hopper boy went out there and on his SV ran a twins class I think it was.

Can you say RINGER.

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The Resurrection prepped CB550 will be sponsored and donated by Maglone's Auto and Some guy named Matt. Matt will sponsor the machine equipped with new tires, brakes, fork rebuild and then the Resurrection team will drill holes everywhere in it like swiss cheese for safety wire. This should be fun. I'm going to laugh my ass off the whole time in my helmet.

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I should have the bike this week. I can start the wrench work and give Mat a parts list.

Did he say he was going to foot the whole parts price tag ?

He wants us to look into the safety bolt washers.Drilling as few holes as possible.

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Make sure you guys bone up on AHRMA's equippment standards. Because they deal with such old machinery they do have some unique safety rules...like the requirement that all road race machines must have oil catch pans that are capable of holding X quarts of oil.
It's nothing too drastic or expensive but I mention it because after so much enthusiasm I'd hate to hear you guys didn't pass tech because of some of AHRMA's unique rules.
That is all.

PS...Since it's now a done deal and you guys are going vintage racing have you considered doing AMA Vintage Days at Mid Ohio in July? Entries for the event are now open online.

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Glad you guys found a bike. As of now I'm planning on heading up there to at least drink beer and spectate and assist with wrenching on the bike if needed. I may do the supermoto race with Jack too.
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We will be running two pits one for the 550 and one for the Sumo.

Ryan you may find your self in charge of one so please don't get to hung up on spectating We might find this to be WORK.

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Make sure you guys bone up on AHRMA's equippment standards. Because they deal with such old machinery they do have some unique safety rules...like the requirement that all road race machines must have oil catch pans that are capable of holding X quarts of oil.
It's nothing too drastic or expensive but I mention it because after so much enthusiasm I'd hate to hear you guys didn't pass tech because of some of AHRMA's unique rules.
That is all.

PS...Since it's now a done deal and you guys are going vintage racing have you considered doing AMA Vintage Days at Mid Ohio in July? Entries for the event are now open online.
Don't get ahead of us we're doing nothing but having fun at RA and maybe pissing off a few people that think they're fast.

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We will be running two pits one for the 550 and one for the Sumo.

Ryan you may find your self in charge of one so please don't get to hung up on spectating We might find this to be WORK.
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Can I lend a hand in some way? I'd really like to see how people that have a clue go about prepping and running a pit on race day?

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Oh he can drive. He can drive beyond the limits of the tires, the engine, the car or anything else.
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