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What to wear for cold wet trackday

Hey guys, the weather this weekend looks like its gonna suck.
Ive never done a track day in the rain before, and I have only done 2 track days before.
what do you guys wear during a cold/wet track day?
my suit is perforated which will probably let water through like crazy.
I'm gonna wear my long johns but those will probably get soaked under my suit too.
also what should i be cautious about while on the track other than being really smooth?
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reduced traction, your tires will NEVER get warm

you can wear a rainsuit over the leathers, adn it wont matter if they are perfd or not if its raining youre gonna get wet without rain gear

the cold can be an issue it makes you stiff and less apt to move smoothly on the bike
if you get too cold it can be a distraction or worse affect judgement

my advice for riding in the wet at a track day: wait till it gets drier, if you really really want to go out take it really slow

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also try to hold the bike as upright as possible.


when it's cold, i wear my skiing gear. nice and warm!
rain gear is allowed. you can also wear sweatshirts or wind breakers under or over the suit!

a pair of dry gloves is nice!

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my advice is if you don't have a dedicated trackbike don't ride in the wet on the track. You will thank me later. The risk is not worth the reward.
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I'm wearing my snowmobile helmet so I don't fog up too bad. But if you don't have one put duct tape over your nose to prevent fogging. Thick under armor is awesome and a loose rain suit. I hate it when I can't move around in a rain suit and then all of a sudden it feels better like I can move again, then I look down and the whole crotch is ripped out of the suit. LOL!

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my advice is if you don't have a dedicated trackbike don't ride in the wet on the track. You will thank me later. The risk is not worth the reward.

You don't remember me tearing up ACC North all by myself a few years ago. Since we already started riding, it was a bust, so either ride or lose your money, I chose to ride. Yep, I was pretty damn soaked but still had a good time. It even started to dry up later but everyone else packed it in. Had ACC North all to myself for 2 hours in a semi weight condition. As supergirl said, you want to reduce lean angle, you will feel the rear slip and slide all day long, so being smooth and vertical is the key. The faster you are and the more you stay moving the dryer you will be, but if it is 40 and pouring it's not worth being out there. The day I went, it was pouring and 80 so it wasn't so bad. Good luck, I hope for the best. I may be dirt riding if things are good.

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Some very good advice in this thread.

You may worry about losing the track day fee, but remember, if you lose traction or focus because of conditions, the ensuing off will probably cost more to repair you and/or your bike than the track fee paid. Choose wisely.

Also, run rain tires or at least DOT's. Never run slicks in the wet.

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thanks for the advice everyone.
I am not very fast and i dont lean the bike over very far as it is so i think i should be okay with my PP 2ct's.
At what point do they call a rain day? like does it have to be down pouring?
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Some very good advice in this thread.

You may worry about losing the track day fee, but remember, if you lose traction or focus because of conditions, the ensuing off will probably cost more to repair you and/or your bike than the track fee paid. Choose wisely.
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thanks for the advice everyone.
I am not very fast and i dont lean the bike over very far as it is so i think i should be okay with my PP 2ct's.
At what point do they call a rain day? like does it have to be down pouring?
it depends on many factors. if it rains heavily in the last two sessions, oh well.
if it rains heavily from the morning on and it is declared unsafe to ride, then it might be a rain day. it really depends.

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My pj's under a blanket on my couch!!
If you work hard enough out there when you dive down into turn 2 on the north cours it feels that way. Wait a minute. I have never been in PJs or under a blanket on your couch.

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like when theres lightning?

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like when theres lightning?
We were at Grattan one time during a thunderstorm and they kept on telling everyone to STAY OFF THE ARMCO! So people kept sitting on it and BAM! The ambulance was hauling peaple away.

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Unsafe to ride? Please Tea... Seriously...
Hahahaha

last year memorial day, YOU were sent out to see if the track was safe to ride...

while you were out there, we tried to figure out WHO actually suggested YOU for that role??? like, if you were gonna say it's unsafe to ride. ever.

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my advice is if you don't have a dedicated trackbike don't ride in the wet on the track. You will thank me later. The risk is not worth the reward.
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We were at Grattan one time during a thunderstorm and they kept on telling everyone to STAY OFF THE ARMCO! So people kept sitting on it and BAM! The ambulance was hauling peaple away.
LOL, now this is funny shit...
I was one time at RA for a MotoST event to help Luporini. Race-controll said they would stop the race for lightening but rain would be ok... it rained all afternoon heavily, just as the race was supposed to start it rained even worse, they postponed the race for a bit and than started when it stopped raining. a few laps in it started to rain badly, and wind and lightening... the AMA guys were just behind us with all the rigs, Honda was directly behind the spot we were at in the hotpit... All the sudden it got bright, and BAM, when I turned around a corner of the Honda Trailer smoked... I spend the rest of the time watching from my car...
Well the race went on and got stopped just before 5 as it got dark...


To the OP, ride smooth, safe and slow. Grashopper is a good teacher in the rain he is smooth, safe and fast...
Good DOT's in semi wet conditions are fine or Rains if the track is wet.
I personally would not go on a wet track unless I really really need to... I don't even ride in rain on the street.

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I don't even ride in rain on the street.
that's my point!!!

do you go out and ride on the street on purpose if it's raining?

i don't. i take the car!

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Rain the great equalizer. I'm guessing Wink and I probably have more laps then most in the rain. Don't fear the rain. Traction is finite. You can't expect to use more then you have available to you. Just like in the dry. Maximum body position, swim trunks under leathers dry quick. Rain suit over your leathers if you have it. Rain tires if you have them. If not, pretend your riding in slow motion. Do everything half as fast as you usually would. Stay off the PAINT!

When it rains, I'm typically the first and one of the few to go out. Of my first 7 track days, 5 were in the rain. One was a flash flood warning at Road America. But again, if you're not willing to crash, you shouldn't be out there. It can happen. Your fault or not your fault. Wet or dry. It's a risk we all assume.

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I was out at RA, 40 deg and pouring rain, it was a ton of fun and I was out there every session until the checkered.... Until I crashed lol...

It can be fun, but don't do it if you're on your prestine street bike, not worth the money to fix the damage.... On a trackbike already held together by a half gallon of fiberglass resin, go for it!

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You don't remember me tearing up ACC North all by myself a few years ago. Since we already started riding, it was a bust, so either ride or lose your money, I chose to ride. Yep, I was pretty damn soaked but still had a good time. It even started to dry up later but everyone else packed it in. Had ACC North all to myself for 2 hours in a semi weight condition. As supergirl said, you want to reduce lean angle, you will feel the rear slip and slide all day long, so being smooth and vertical is the key. The faster you are and the more you stay moving the dryer you will be, but if it is 40 and pouring it's not worth being out there. The day I went, it was pouring and 80 so it wasn't so bad. Good luck, I hope for the best. I may be dirt riding if things are good.

And Chief I woyuldn't consider it tearing up the track I would consider it you were the only idiot out there because you didn't know any better. LOL



It will be a cold day in hell before a trackday org cancels a trackday and risks loosing money. Just remember if one wheel turns on the track for even 1 lap the track is considered hot. This even means if they don't let anyone on the track till after lunch and go out for one lap then bring everyone in because of unsafe conditions you are screwed from many orgs.


Just be smart about it and don't ride over ur head. For me riding at 50% is no fun on a streetbike when you are on the track. What is the sense of doing it???


You don't want to end the season at the first event and wad up ur shiny street ride or bust urself up just because you spent $100 to ride on the track. Sit it out and wait and if it never cleears up at least you had fun B.S.ing with friends in the pits.
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well if you do want to chance it here are some things to do

get that silicon spray for leather and spray the hell out it + your gloves and boots(need to do days before hand)
rainX your visor
everything i mean it everything you do on the bike do it smooth.
throttle, braking, body position, leaning
do not jerk the bike around (upset the suspension)

i did all this for rd atlanta last yr and it poured i had rivers and pools of water/mud and i did great and kept dry

i want to drink, but only to kill a certain few brain cells and i don't care how many i have to take out to get to them.
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for me, if it's a track day then no thanks. If it's a race weekend and it's practice then you better get your ass out there and figure it out.

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+1 on the track day and even for a race weekend for me, the prospect of a wooden plaque at the end isnt worth it to me

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If you have 2 sets of gloves and sets of boots bring them. Also rubber gloves like doctors wear work well to keep ur hands warmer and dry in the rain.
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+1 on the track day and even for a race weekend for me, the prospect of a wooden plaque at the end isnt worth it to me
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