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Warm vs cold track

I did 3 track weekends so far and I don't have much road experience either. But now I only have a track bike and I want to ride. I want to do a track day asap but the temperatures are in low 40 at night and not going over 60 during day. So the track will be cold. How much do you slow down from your normal pace? Do you lean less in turns? Is it a big difference in riding compared to a track in middle of summer? Any advice appreciated.

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Regardless of temps, I take the first session pretty slow to get myself ready, as well as feel out the track. There can be good grip in the 60's, but every day/track is different. If the grip isn't the best, dial it down accordingly.

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Tire warmers .


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I can imagine that 60's are not that bad but if is around 40's at night, the track want warm that fast if at all.

I don't have tire warmers and even if I had, is it going to help that much? The track will have the same temp anyway. And after 2 or 3 laps my tires should get to the same temp as with tire warmers. Or am I missing something?

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Tire warmers make a huge difference,regardless of track temp.

Yes, cold temps offer lower overall traction all other things equal.


Choice of tire in cooler temps matters too.


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Lots of different factors. I typically look for a feel from the tires to see exactly what is going during the first couple sessions and adjust pace accordingly (for me, pace is fairly slow or slower, even when conditions are ideal)

Things to take into account

ambient temperature
cloud cover inhibiting the track from absorbing sun energy
wind
humidity
wear on your tires (regardless of tread, as the tires wear, there is less rubber and the ability for the tire to retain heat decreases)
Tire compound
etc.

It is a very complicated question, but for the most part:

If its cold, slow your roll

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Let me know when, I can do any time after work Wednesday and Thursday this week.

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Tire warmers make a huge difference,regardless of track temp.

Yes, cold temps offer lower overall traction all other things equal.


Choice of tire in cooler temps matters too.


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Baloney. I don't care what tire or warmers you may use, when the overnight temps are in the 40's, the track is COLD, your warmers will warm those tires right up until they toss you on your head from the track cooling them right down if you don't adjust your riding. In the cold, just take er easy, you're not setting any records, especially at a track day. Look forward to seeing you out there.

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Let me know when, I can do any time after work Wednesday and Thursday this week.
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