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post #1 of 33 (permalink) Old 12-08-2003, 09:17 AM Thread Starter
 
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cbr1000rr? small rear sprocket.

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It's a Honda by the frame, swingarm design, brake rotors and clutch cover, looks like possibly a 4-cylinder bike set-up for Daytona with the quick change rear sprocket.

Is Honda finally taking advantage of the new rules and using a 954 for AMA superbike. I do see what looks liek a HTEV valve on the exhaust and it's definitely a 4 cylinder since the exhaust runs under the engine. Although it still looks a lot like a 600RR.

Maybe there really is a early production '05 fireblade in the works. Perhaps stroked for a full 1000cc wit hthe undertail exhaust ot look more similar to the RR.
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I like how the sprocket is connected to the swing-arm. But how does that work?


Give us a bigger picture!!!!!!
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The new 2004 Honda CBR1000RR will show itself today at Daytona. This image was snapped moments ago as the Honda crew readied it for battle. As you can see the machine features a huge radiator.

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wish I had a bigger pic!!

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Holy crap that radiator is freakin huge!
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I like how the sprocket is connected to the swing-arm. But how does that work?
That's a quick change set-up for Daytona.

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SCHUUUUUWWWWWWIIIIIIIING!!!!

Maybe it's time to go back to the I4.
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YOu guys think you are so smart and knowledgeable about bikes but your kindergarden guesses are so sad. It is so friggin obvious that that bike is a Harley Davidson Fatboy with a setup for a fat tire kit. Gosh how in the hell did you guys miss that????

I would say it is a CBR 1000RR
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I think the idea was not to guess which bike is in the pic but to speculate how the CBR1000RR will do this year.

Honda will pull out all the stops to win Daytona. If they do, then the rest of the year Honda will concentrate on Moto GP leaving the Honda riders to fend for themselves with few advancements.

Mladin will replace Kurtis as the biggest whiner in the paddock.
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Like it could have been anything else. I guess I know where the extra weight came from. The swingarm is just massive. I'd like to get a better look at the rear shock set up. It looks alot like the 600rr. BTW, look what is doing up front. Too bad that won't hit the streets.

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I like the boot marks on the swing arm.
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oh shit - it's on - from RRW:
The 2004 Honda CBR1000RR Superbike is impressing its new rider, American Hondas Ben Bostrom.

I think its incredible. Its the funnest and scariest bike Ive ever been on, said Bostrom Monday afternoon during the Dunlop tire test at Daytona International Speedway. You can pretty much spin the tire anywhere. Its really good on the front. Ive never ridden anything close to it; its that amazing."

Asked what part of the bike was better than the other bikes he has ridden, Bostrom said, Every part of it. The motor is so fast. Its pretty electric. Its really soft in my hands. It doesnt vibrate very much. I cant get used to revving it that high. It keeps pulling from basically nowhere all the way to the rev-limiter. It just pulls all the way through. It steers well. It does everything good so far.

Im not used to the bike, and weve got a few things to work out on it, but right now Im smiling, Im excited every time I get on there.

Bostrom added that he already has more front-end feel (the missing element in Bostroms 2003 AMA Superbike campaign) from the CBR1000RR than the RC51. Yeah, I can ride the front on this thing. Its pretty neat, said Bostrom.

At post time (3:30 p.m. Eastern Time), Bostrom had the fastest time of the test so far at a 1:48.981, about 0.5-second ahead of Yoshimura Suzukis Mat Mladin at 1:49.438.

also - in that 1st pic - is that a HRC muffin pan under the bike?
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Muffin pan Sure looks like it.....probably a $300 bolts organizer.
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Mladin will replace Kurtis as the biggest whiner in the paddock.
Mat is getting an early start on 04...

"When asked how the new bike conforming to the new rules compared to the older specification, Mladin responded with a one word answer. "Slow," he said."
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Soooo, do you think Honda took what they learned from testing and the first season of MotoGP and applied it to this chassis. The chassis and the bikes balance is really what makes the RC211V such an awesome bike.

Could we see the same dominance in AMA that has been in overseas????
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as long as honda has the rider they could make things interesting. Look what Nicky did on what I believe to be an inferior bike(RC 51 to the GSXR 750).

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That is too funny about Mladin, him and Biaggi are so much alike. By the way did anyone catch Doohan's comments about Biaggi needing to be sponsored by Kleenex in the latest road racing world?

I think they could have a pretty large team Biaggi, Mladin, Roberts....
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That is too funny about Mladin, him and Biaggi are so much alike. By the way did anyone catch Doohan's comments about Biaggi needing to be sponsored by Kleenex in the latest road racing world?

I think they could have a pretty large team Biaggi, Mladin, Roberts....
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I havent been a second off the pace for a while, said Mladin. Theyre (Honda) already under the pole position time from last year testing tires, and were riding our ass off to be a second off the pace.

Mladin feels the 2004 AMA Superbike rules requiring stock throttle bodies and airboxes on Superbikes have resulted in his Suzuki GSX-R1000s reduction in top speed and slower lap times.

Were doing 183-184 mph. In August during the tire test we were doing 186-187 mph. Theyre (Honda) doing 190 mph, said Mladin. I did a 1:48.2 in August when it was pretty hot. Now Im pushing to do a 1:49.4.

You ever ride so hard to be one second off the pace? Mladin asked teammate Aaron Yates.

Its a fking joke, answered Yates.


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LOL this is good. Anyone remember when Mat was complaining that the (stock throttle body) privateer bikes being faster than his??? RRW link

" The privateer Suzukis are quicker than ours, said Mladin. I got behind Shawn Higbee and he pulled away from me down the straight, and I'm a factory rider. These guys are always complaining about their bikes, but there's a couple of Suzukis out there that are quicker than ours.

Higbees 2002-model GSX-R1000 runs with stock throttle bodies under a stock airbox and is legal under the 2004 Superbike rules, according to Kevin Hunt, Crew Chief for Kaufman/Millennium Suzuki."
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Mladin will replace Kurtis as the biggest whiner in the paddock.
Hahaha, can I call it or what?!?!
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He does seem to cry a lot, but you guys wouldn't be the least bit annoyed at the times the Honda is already running? Sure, it's always an incentive to go faster with someone in front, but I imagine it's quiet discouraging when you're already riding your ass off.
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so its going to be a bostrom 1-2 this year!!! with eric on top ofcourse!!

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Mladin Draws The Line
won't test today
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Wednesday, December 10, 2003
Suzuki's Mat Mladin said he would not test the Suzuki GSX-R1000 at DIS on Wednesday. "I won't race at Daytona again," said four-time and reigning AMA Superbike champion Mladin this morning in the wake of yet another suspected tire failure yesterday at Daytona.

Mladin added that he would only compete in the 200 -- a race he has won twice -- on a 600cc motorcycle.

Mladin and other racers are quite upset after Yamaha's Jason DiSalvo crashed in NASCAR Turn Four yesterday at the end of the day. After Ben Spies had an 186mph tire failure at Daytona last October, Dunlop investigated the cause of that crash and had a meeting with the riders on Sunday evening. "They guaranteed us the problem was fixed," Mladin said.

Mladin added he doesn't solely blame Dunlop for the failures because of the high-speed nature of the circuit and the ever-increasing pace of the motorcycles in the AMA series, but that the tire maker has the final say in if they have the ability to make safe tires for the class or not.
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I noticed that all the Suckzuki guys didn't complain last year when they had podium spots just handed to them because of a rules change. Have Suckzuki change the throttle bodies on their 2004.5 street machines if they need to be competitive. Too bad they are a second off pace. Frankly, I don't think it's as simple as a horsepower issue. My gut is telling me that Big Red got mad and put together a better overall package. Imagine that...

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