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post #1 of 20 (permalink) Old 02-16-2004, 11:15 PM Thread Starter
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NESBA or STT?

First, wasn't STT on this site or were they dropped when NESBA came on?
Second, who has done both and can help me out? I'm trying to decide if I should do dates with NESBA or STT.
I can do 1 day at Road America, 1day at Putnam, 2 days at Autobahn Country Club, and either 1 day at BHF (with NESBA) or 1 day at Grattan (with STT)
So 5 days total with either group with 4 of the 5 tracks being the same. Here's the catch, NESBA will cost me (with $75 membership) $875, STT will cost me (with $25 membership) $770

I know NESBA is a site sponsor but what does $105 buy me? Is there a CLSB discount? NESBA is my first choice because I know how they operate and I'll know a lot of people there from CLSB. But in the long run $105 is still $105.

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this was bound to come up, and i dont blame you for asking.

we are now a EXCLUSIVE NESBA site promoter, i feel so strongly with nesba, and there business of how they do things that i back them and made this choice. thats the end of that story, you might want to ask nesba in there forum, what that extra 105 dollars gets you versus STT.

i am sure they can fill you in WAY better then what i can.

but off the top of my head is all there benifits they are giving there members, which is more then STT period, and the amount of tracks they book out, which i do believe? doesnt even cover 1/2 the tracks you listed you want to go to.

sorry if i cant answer your questions any better but i gotta get some sleep, ive been up for 48 hours.



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Well, if I were you, I'd mix and match. STT is the only way you can ride Gratten short of a personal track day during the week. Both are good. STT is very good for a first couple track days. Unfortunately the classes, required for all beginners, get a bit repetitive after the second or third time. Upside is, if you hang with the first novice grouping, you'll be way faster than 1/2 the people in their I group.

NESBA is less structured, but the control riders are really good, more likely to talk to you about the track session. And you are more likely to get advice from more than one person, which is always good.

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Like you said, NESBA would be my first choice because I know how they operate and because I would know a lot of people, as well. I've done both, but I think NESBA has the upper hand when it comes to safety, instruction, feedback, etc., in addition to creating a much more inviting atmosphere.

Plus, Blackhawk kicks ass (although I've never done Grattan ).
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I've riden with both. And I am a member of both

They are both good Organizations, and it's all track time. Chances are if you can't find a NESBA day when you want to ride the track there's a STT day waiting for you during that time.

I wouldn't favor one over the other.
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While they are both excellent organizations, STT offers a broader range of ancillary discounts for gear (they are distributors for a variety of products including Bohn, Gaerne and Held). STT also offers a more structured beginner program, with actual classroom instruction combined with on-track skill drills.

Obviously, if you want to go to Blackhawk, NESBA is the way to go. However, STT also has dates at Mid-Ohio, Grattan, Gingerman, Barber, Putnam Park, Road America, Jennings and BeaveRun - and they are also a shareholder in the new Autobahn course that will be opening up in Joliet later this year.

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STT in Beginner actually does drills and a number of exercises for corner entry and exit and how to follow the correct line around the race track.

I never got that with NESBA.
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I had the same dilemma but my choice was simple. Even though I did 4 trackdays with NESBA in 2002 and think they are awesome…as a woman I can save hundreds of dollars with STT… so this year I’m doing STT for approx. $75 per day

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Yes. It's good to be a girl. Join STT/Femmoto for $35 and do all your track days for a whopping $75 each.

This includes ALL their venues, including Road America... Barber... EVERYTHING.

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If money is the concern.... STT!!!!

The thing I like about STT is they have a # of track days that are called LEDs. They only have 2 groups and the track time ends up being more then enough!!!
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My girlfriend is leaning to Stt for the 75 buck track days!!!! So...... she makes up my mind on that one!!!!
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I have done STT, they are good and I had an awesome time. I also like Gingerman a lot and they have a lot of dates there, I have a house to sleep at 15 minutes away which is key. But I really would like to hit up blackhawk this year so I will probably join both organizations. I've heard great things about Nesba, but $75 for joining sounds a little high for me, whats the fee for.

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If I had the choice between Grattan or Blackhawk, it's Grattan hands down - no matter what the club. I'm a member of both NESBA and STT and like 'em both. Like it was said before, between the two there are always good dates to use.

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One difference I notice (this may have changed):

NESBA membership is a full 12 Months.

STT membership is for the current season.


So with Neba, you can buy your membership any any time in the season & still get your moneys worth because your 12 month membership will wrap around to the next year. For example, if my membership expires on May 1, but I'm not doing a trackday till June 30, I don't renew my membership till I am ready to sign up for a track day. THEN, the following season, I can ride Nesba for April, May and June before another membership fee is due.

With STT, if I buy amembership late in the season to squeeze in one more track day - that membership expires right away. You can't use it for the first track event the following season.

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Isn't there a gate fee with STT?

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Hey Jeff - Didn't you sell your 9 already (its still advertised in your avitar).

They had a gate fee at Road America - but I think it was Road America collecting the fee - not STT.

Don't remember them having one at Grattan.

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I think Gratten had one when I was there..trying to remember. Nesba didn't have a gate fee at RA. I remember because there was some rumor about a fee at the NESBA event.

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Isn't there a gate fee with STT?
Yes, I think there is usually a $5 gate fee, but they offer donuts, apples and stuff in the morning and usually a hot lunch.
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