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Mladin and the 200

Well, he won. No whining. I have to give him credit.

Here's an interesting article he wrote that attacks Sidowski and Despain. Interesting...

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Good article. He's still one of my favorite riders out there.

I like Migueal and Eric, but mladin is still the shit.




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Good, well written article. I wonder if Despain will take any of that to heart.

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LOL, Despain can never catch a break, everyone gives him shit




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SO who is the "friend" riding with him? The same person he gave thanks to before in the post race interview, when he got all teary eyed?
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SO who is the "friend" riding with him? The same person he gave thanks to before in the post race interview, when he got all teary eyed?
I was wondering that also, does he have his girlfriend talk in his radio, or is he refering to maybe a dead relative or someone watching over him?




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What's Despain's background? I know he used to do a ton of motorcycle stuff on Speed, then the powers that be turned him into a NASCAR puppet. But to me, he sounded like a complete idiot during the race coverage. His interview with Duhammel was weak IMO.

It was funny listening to Sidowski correct him every 5 min.

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What's Despain's background? I know he used to do a ton of motorcycle stuff on Speed, then the powers that be turned him into a NASCAR puppet. But to me, he sounded like a complete idiot during the race coverage. His interview with Duhammel was weak IMO.

It was funny listening to Sidowski correct him every 5 min.
Despain isn't the guy doing commentary with Sadowski, it's Brian Drebber.

Despain has a lot of history in racing, both car and bike. I respect what he says, he knows a helluva lot more than me.

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Well I got to agree with him on what hes saying about the announcers they flat out said there is no way he or eric could win with a three pit stop strategy. Im not sure why he is attacking despain though, but whatever he ran a good race, gotta give him props for that! and a drop kick and a head butt!

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Despain raced dirt track

Drebber was a bicycle racer I beleive.

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I think his thing with Despain is mostly that Despain keeps bringing up the fact that he's not always the most PC sort of guy. Some of the things Mladin says off the cuff come off as arrogant, sometimes he seems to say things to try to get under other racers skins (like the stuff he was saying about EBoz and the Ducati before the race)

The more I read of what Mladin has to say when he has a chance to reason it out, though, the more respect I have for him - he's just very blunt and professional and doesn't want anything between him and the championship.

The more I see Mladin ride, the more respect I have for his talent - He was just a machine on saturday, clicking off laps at the same quick pace for 57 laps, never out of control, but always just at the edge of what the bike and the tires were giving him.

If Dunlop can keep him in tires, it's looking like an unexciting year for the championship.
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If Dunlop can keep him in tires, it's looking like an unexciting year for the championship.

Yeah, thanks to Ducati's mess-up on EBoz's bike, Eboz is SERIOUSLY down in points. You know damn well that if Mladin is crossing the finish line, he's on the podium. What's the points difference between 1st and 3rd? How many races does EBoz have to win now to make up for this (assuming it doesn't happen again?)

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I'll have to watch the Mladin post race interviews (I skipped them) and see what he says. But he isn't afraid to speak his mind, whether or not it's polite. But if there was a lot of Despain bashing I don't think you'll be seeing too many more interviews of him.

I actually want to check out the post race interviews for Zemke's responses. That guy is a riot to listen to.

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I missed Mladin's interview too - the Despain comments I saw were in his column at superbikeplanet.com

The Ducati was put out by a holed oil cooler, not because it naturally went boom.
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Zemke is hilarious. He doesn't take himself too seriously at all. Good guy for the sport. I love his interviews. I'm glad he's getting some (more) recognition.
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The Ducati was put out by a holed oil cooler, not because it naturally went boom.
Says Ducati...
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Zemke is hilarious. He doesn't take himself too seriously at all. Good guy for the sport. I love his interviews. I'm glad he's getting some (more) recognition.
He's one of my favorites as well and is fun to watch. He really looks like he's having a blast at what he's doing
He's another guy who isn't afraid of sliding around .

Sometimes he drives me nuts though on the post race interviews
I haven't watched a lot of other sports but No one changes hats 5 times an interview anymore do they ???
I wish he would give his interview then do the sponsor thing or the other way around.
It was actually better during the post daytona interview then some others.

Still comes off as a really cool guy..


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Says Ducati...
good point.. didn't think of that

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Yes, I agree. Zemke is totally cool and one of my favorite riders.
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He's one of my favorites as well and is fun to watch. He really looks like he's having a blast at what he's doing
He's another guy who isn't afraid of sliding around .

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Ahhh take away the jumping up and down and the drop kick add a little alcohol and I've probalby done worse..

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Mladin is a good racer.


One thing to keep in mind with all this is that this is daytona and it is a very different race than the rest of the season.
fontana will be a better judge of the season based on a more normal race distance. I think daytona showed that it will be a way better season than last year. Zemke, Duhamel, Mladin,
E-boz,B-boz, and yates if he has not gone to the wwe will make for a very interesting championship.
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Says Ducati...

Actually, shortly after Eric got back to the pits, they interviewed him and he said that a stone/rock had hit and punctured the oil cooler. He said there were a number of small rocks/large stones, etc. littered on the track.

They aired his interview over the loudspeakers during the race.....he said it was from a rock and I'm inclined to believe him.

I was rooting for the Ducati all the way, as I wanted to see history be made that day. Ahh well, maybe next time.....

The Ducati Daytona curse lives on.
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Mr. Yates is SO off my Christmas card list!

He must have all but forgotten what he did at Laguna last year, taking out Chili and Corser, taking out Hodgson, who had been the points leader in World Superbike at the time (possibly ruining his season.....although he didn't), and taking out Eric Bostrom, definitely ruining his season and his run at the AMA Superbike title.

I don't remember any of them beating on Yates for his bonehead move, nor do I remember anyone ripping him in the press (even Eric held his tongue, even though Yates ended his season). And, I remember Chili being very forgiving and understanding, and patting Yates on the shoulder after the crash (and saying after the race that people make mistakes and it was a mistake).

I guess that's the difference between being a professional, and being a fricking redneck asshole.

Yates should be banned for more than just one race; that is ridiculous. What if Fania had been seriously injured in the crash, and Yates had done even more damage, possibly paralyzing him?!?! There's just no excuse for that kind of behavior.
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Wasn't there someone else too that took a rock to the radiator at Daytona. I recall them actually swapping it out in the pits.s

Either way, I'm excited to see the Ducati/E-Boz combo in AMA Superbike. Oh yeah and also going to be following their efforts in WSS too, since they are running the 749 there and it seems to be a missle compared to the 600's something like 10k's faster down the front straight.

All of this, and MotoGP hasn't even started yet. It's going to be a great year for racing.
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Wasn't there someone else too that took a rock to the radiator at Daytona. I recall them actually swapping it out in the pits.s
Yeah, I think that was Spies.
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Actually, shortly after Eric got back to the pits, they interviewed him and he said that a stone/rock had hit and punctured the oil cooler. He said there were a number of small rocks/large stones, etc. littered on the track.

They aired his interview over the loudspeakers during the race.....he said it was from a rock and I'm inclined to believe him.

I was rooting for the Ducati all the way, as I wanted to see history be made that day. Ahh well, maybe next time.....

The Ducati Daytona curse lives on.
Facts:
1.) Erics bike was lightly smoking while under load prior to his pitstop

2.) Eric pits in...and gets sent back out on track

4.) smoking continues and progressively gets worse until Eric calls it quits....and cannnot manage to even bring the bike into the pits.

5.) Oil coolers(like radiators LBK) are not THAT hard to swap out, you would think with all the points and media attention at Daytona you'd think they'd just swap out the oil cooler and get back out there to collect points....they didn't even try did they???

My opinion:

If the oil cooler had a hole in it, I would imagine it would be spraying pressurized hot oil all over the track/header pipes/plastics...ect Erics bike wasn't dumping anything on the track as far as I could tell(until he was black flagged?). Also the fact that the smoking got worse and worse....did the hole in the oil cooler just get bigger and bigger?

IMO the smoke also looked more white(water)....not blue as you would expect from burning oil.

So if the oil cooler had a hole in it, it must have had a hole in it prior to the pitstop. I have a hard time believing the crew would:
A Not notice hot oil spraying out/loss in pressure/rise in temp.....ect
B Send their only rider out on a bike leaking oil at the most dangerous racetrack in the country

So while I too was rooting on Eric, what I think happened is that the Ducati had a gasket/seal failure in the motor that progressively got worse. But that would be bad PR for Ducati so they used the oil cooler line and lamented the "ducati curse". I would be interested to hear from the 4&6 or MD racing folks who turn wrenches on racebikes for a living....maybe I'm 100% wrong.

Eric did prove at Daytona that he and the Duc should be competative this season, I hope he does well.

edited upon extensive review of video footage.....btw I also wonder about B.Boz's problems with the honda, they never really did explain that.

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Facts:
1.) Erics bike was lightly smoking from the tailpipes prior to his pitstop
2.) Oil coolers are typically located under the radiator(front of bike)

3.) Eric pits in...and gets sent back out on track

4.) smoking from tailpipes continues and progressively gets worse until Eric calls it quits

5.) Oil coolers(like radiators LBK) are not THAT hard to swap out, you would think with all the points and media attention at Daytona you'd think they'd just swap out the oil cooler and get back out there to collect points....they didn't even try did they???

My opinion:

If the oil cooler had a hole in it, I would imagine it would be spraying pressurized hot oil all over the track/header pipes/plastics...ect Erics bike wasn't dumping anything on the track as far as I could tell and the smoke wasn't coming from the front of the bike...it was coming from the exhaust which leads me to believe that the motor was burning something bad(oil/water) in the cylinders. Also the fact that the smoking got worse and worse....did the hole in the oil cooler just get bigger and bigger?

IMO the smoke also looked more white(water)....not blue as you would expect from burning oil.

So if the oil cooler had a hole in it, it must have had a hole in it prior to the pitstop. I have a hard time believing the crew would:
A Not notice hot oil spraying out/loss in pressure/rise in temp.....ect
B Send their only rider out on a bike leaking oil at the most dangerous racetrack in the country

So while I too was rooting on Eric, what I think happened is that the Ducati had a shaft seal failure in the motor that progressively got worse. But that would be bad PR for Ducati so they used the oil cooler line and lamented the "ducati curse". I would be interested to hear from the 4&6 or MD racing folks who turn wrenches on racebikes for a living....maybe I'm 100% wrong.

Eric did prove at Daytona that he and the Duc should be competative this season, I hope he does well.

That's cool if you think it is a Ducati cover-up. I happened to be at the race and saw the smoke come out from under the bike in a huge poof. The smoke was in fact a bluish color, at least from seeing it with my own eyes, in person at the track, it looked blue to me. It looked like it came from directly under the bike, so it could have come from the radiator area near the front of the bike, and get swept under the bike and out.

He kept looking straight down at the bike towards the oil cooler, towards the front left side of the bike. We watched the whole thing from the stands, with binoculars and a camera with a 400mm digital zoom lens. From what we all saw at the track, no smoke ever came out of the exhaust.

We can agree to disagree. Maybe if I had been watching it on television, I would have seen something else. From my vantage point, the punctured oil cooler explanation was valid.


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