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BHF on-board footage 4/04

Sorry maks, I had to get outta the office for a while. I just got back. Here it is:

BHF 4/04
Size is about 54.6 MB.
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Thanks dude.. and I meant to mention.. 4/04?? The days were the 17th and 18th and pretty sure the footage was from the 18th.
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lol I just took the dates that were written on the CD :-P
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Thanks dude.. and I meant to mention.. 4/04?? The days were the 17th and 18th and pretty sure the footage was from the 18th.
I know it was the 17th and 18th, but 04/04 refers to the MONTH and YEAR.... highspeed!

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I know it was the 17th and 18th, but 04/04 refers to the MONTH and YEAR.... highspeed!
Ahar, that definitely makes more sense. My bad. So.. looka me haul ass on that video. Go me. Go.
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Who is the rider with the camara? Chills?
Yep, that's me. That's also my video at Barber on the other thread.

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Some help from a racer.
You can excelerate alot farther down the straights, try being smooth when releasing your clutch on down shifts, work on using more of the track, try not the chop the throttle so much, and try to get to maintenance throttle as you lean the bike into the corners.

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Some help from a racer.
You can excelerate alot farther down the straights, try being smooth when releasing your clutch on down shifts, work on using more of the track, try not the chop the throttle so much, and try to get to maintenance throttle as you lean the bike into the corners.
Thanks, man. I always appreciate input. I didn't accelerate down the front straight as much because I needed new brakes. Since then I now have new lines and pads so I'll be getting on it more.

I'll work on the other things you suggested. tjpilot taped me at RA and it was humbling to watch. I know I need to use more of the track. I'm getting better at that.

Thanks again for the input. Anything that helps me be a better rider on the track is welcome.

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and stay in a higher gear
I keep it between 2nd and 3rd throughout most of the track. Sometimes I'll hit 4th on the front. I should be in a higher gear?

I've tried being in higher gears and I don't like letting my RPM's getting too low.... maybe I should just go faster...lol

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and stay in a higher gear
I thought he was fine with what gears he was in!!!

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he needs to shift a touch earlier, but then again, i am not a race school teacher...i just saw to many times the red zone being hit and being held to long is all.



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An good way to learn to go fast around turn is to let off the brakes earilier and earilier. Some people may til you to brake later but all that does is make you brake harder.

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An good way to learn to go fast around turn is to let off the brakes earilier and earilier. Some people may til you to brake later but all that does is make you brake harder.
That's something I know I need to do. Just let of the brakes earlier and then get on the gas. My transition from brake to power isn't as smooth as it should be.

Ken, yeah I did redline it a couple of times. That is a pretty rare occurance. It just so happened to do it while I was taping. I'm just going faster on the straights that I used to last year, so I do need to upshift maybe once more.

Keep the advice coming. Wait until you see my RA video.... that'll give you plenty to work with.

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we'll all be at BHF together may 24. I actually watched it again just to take lap times. your running 1:35 ave, some 37's and I clocked one 1:31.

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we'll all be at BHF together may 24. I actually watched it again just to take lap times. your running 1:35 ave, some 37's and I clocked one 1:31.

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You're right on the money with those lap times. I kept getting stuck behind other riders, so I think I could run consistant 1:30's and lower. Maks and I did a 1:28 on Sunday.

Unfortunately I won't be attending the May CLSB day. My little brother (Honda4ever... the mouthy kid) is graduating high school. So I'll be in New Mexico running in the true canyons and twisties in the mountains. But I will have video!

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I didn't accelerate down the front straight as much because I needed new brakes.
Excuses, excuses.. your brakes couldn't possibly have been worse than mine.
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Excuses, excuses.. your brakes couldn't possibly have been worse than mine.
yeah, max was using his feet flintstone style and he pulled a 1:24.

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Excuses, excuses.. your brakes couldn't possibly have been worse than mine.
Very true. My brakes weren't that bad at all.

But my bike is like 100lbs heavier than yours, Maks.... so I need a lot more stopping power.

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All good points to learn from. I would stay to get to the apex more but it could be the camara mounting. Dano did a great write up about getting around BHF's and he runs deep into the corners then turns. Everyone has a different style that works. Just like attending riding schools, everyone teaches different there skills.

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Now I truly feel like a squid. Thanks for posting this, most movies involving bikes don't show just how far a bike can lean over... I had no idea they could go that far. Just watching this will help me out as I learn to ride the way my bike was meant to be ridden.
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where is this write up??

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All good points to learn from. I would stay to get to the apex more but it could be the camara mounting. Dano did a great write up about getting around BHF's and he runs deep into the corners then turns. Everyone has a different style that works. Just like attending riding schools, everyone teaches different there skills.

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The thread title is "Fast lap at BHF...what's it like?"

Everyone has a different risk level and what they are comfortable doing. Does it mean I would start braking at marker 3? Heck No, more like marker 10 if there was one. Ha Ha


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Chills,

cool vid. thanks for taking it and sharing it....
if i were you i would consider three things. 1. proper turn in at apexes, 2. do not down shift or upshift in the middle of a corner ( you had 3 or 4 upshifts in turn 4 and one downshift in 3D.) you really don't want to upset any vehicle in the middle of a corner. (balance/smoothness is everything) 3. blip the throttle on your downshift. to better matchup the engine rpm to your rear tire rpm. the tire literally has to drag the motor up in rpm to matchup.

best thought though: visit road america first weekend in June and watch the AMA superbikes. watch their line. also, great fun is the back straight into turn 5. huge downshifting and braking before turn in. .. i would like to check out you camera sometime. p[lease let me know when you are back at the track. good luck.. JR
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Never ridden BHF so I thought I'd watch this a few times before tomorrow... A quick ?: Is the preferred line in 3 to double apex that puppy?
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I just wanna know if that was a splattered bug or a really scary satanic ghost head in the middle of your windscreen? J/K I love watching footage like that. Glad you had fun. What kinda camera setup was that?

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