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Fatality at Grattan

I just read on the wera board there was a single rider incident that ended in fatality at a track day at Grattan this past weekend.

The riders name is Mike Fox.
He ran off the track at 10a. According to the post the reason for him running off is unknown.


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HOLY SHIT!! Got anymore info? Where on the forum is it? 10a? turn 10 is the hair pin.

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10a is the blind right hander...10b is the left to the straight away. That was where my wreck was. There are large tractor tires there. It's really dangerous because those tires don't give...they are full of soil.

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It must have happened after 2:00pm because that is when I left for home on Sunday.

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It must have happened after 2:00pm because that is when I left for home on Sunday.
Same here. I didn't know about this.

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Is 10A where the diagram above says 11.

10A?????
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I've said it before and I'll say it again: I don't like Grattan.

Poor guy.
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Racing and track days are inherently dangerous activities. Sometimes bad things happen.

My condolences to his family, as well as to Monte, Bonnie and the other STT instructors.

In a way, the rider was fortunate... he died while having fun - living fully. I would hope that we could all be so lucky.

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Racing and track days are inherently dangerous activities. Sometimes bad things happen.

My condolences to his family, as well as to Monte, Bonnie and the other STT instructors.

In a way, the rider was fortunate... he died while having fun - living fully. I would hope that we could all be so lucky.
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That is sad to hear, R.I.P. fellow rider. Now he is riding in heavens gold wings, enjoying pain no more.
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Is 10A where the diagram above says 11.

10A?????
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No offense Kim, but I'm not too keen on watching any of you die!

I would hope we could all be lucky enough to enjoy hundreds of trackdays, thousands of beers together, and die a peaceful death at a ripe old age.

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I still don't understand...How did he die? What did he hit? A wall?
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I still don't understand...How did he die? What did he hit? A wall?

Where it says 11 on the track diagram is where he went off. There is a wall of tires there and obove the wall is where the dirtbike track is.

When you coming into 11 there you're pretty hard on the gas to hit that immediate left to rock down the front straight.

There is also that guard rail on the outside of 12.

Theres a pretty bad dip or bump in 12.

May be he lost it in 11 and didn't have enough run off and hit that wall. If you hit that wall at speed you're fucked.

I wonder if he lowsided or highsided or what happened
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From what I've read, he hit the tirewall in such a way that his neck was broken and he was killed instantly. Don't know how he came to be pointed in that direction tho.

Chris, I like the hundreds of track days/thousands of beers idea - and also going out in my sleep - provided I can get up and walk from the porch, to the bathroom and then to my bed on my own.

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He probably got unsettled with the hump and slight left hand kink before dropping into 10A. Damn, that is the only spot on the track that really worries me with a lack of run off. Funny, I really like that track and thought it was one of the safer layouts around. Much better than BHF. It's just very technical.

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That track is so chewed up now. The first 2 sessions out my bike was all over the place. Every 5 feet there is a patch of concrete. On the way home I said I wasn't going to go back until they re-pave the place.

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We had the facility on Monday for a NITRO day.

It was turn 11 the blind right up the hill.

Don't know the cause, he flipped the bike on the brakes, hit the tires head first followed by the motorcycle... a 999.

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thats not the kinda news i like to hear.

i am very fond of grattan too. i know it could use a good revamp on the surface and edges but i still love that track.

10a was always explained to me as the uphill blind right hander after the HAIRpin and befor the left to the strights. i would expect it to happen at the hairpin if anywhere and even then its a clear shot to the water.

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i am just wondering, but was this a race day or some track day with a org?



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ahhh man that sucks!
track riding is dangerous but getting hurt or dieing as well all know is avoidable. but it still sucks someone dieing on the track.

anyone know what group he was in?



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ahhh man that sucks!
track riding is dangerous but getting hurt or dieing as well all know is avoidable. but it still sucks someone dieing on the track.

anyone know what group he was in?
I don't know, this writeup was recently posted.

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Says he raced for years in Michigan and Florida. I would guess he was in advanced.

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He was in intermediate they had just bumped him up from novice that morning. They were pitted right next to me.

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Working with the folks at Gratten the next day was rather interesting.

We discussed the event in the riders meeting in the morning, the cornerworkers and medical folks from the track were clearly upset by this.

My understanding is that this was the 6th fatility at Gratten in it's history.... 3 bikes, 3 cars.

That said, the NITRO day went well..... we had a few incidents but they were all minor and we all had a great time.

The Cornerworkers at Gratten are great..... very attentive, great communicators and honestly concerned for the folks on the track.
My thanks go out to them for helping us have a safe day.

I don't know if it was knowledge of the accident the day before but I struggled with that turn all day...... finally got it right in the afternoon and managed some decent lap times.

Be careful out there people.......


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