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Boots, gloves?

I plan on gearing up this fall and winter for trackdays next season, and wanted some suggestions for boots and gloves. I'm not looking to spend my life savings on these items, but I'd rather spend the extra loot on quality gear than limp around with a broken ankle and rashed up hands should I take a good spill. So, which boots? right now I'm leaning towards the sidi vertigo. And which gloves? no idea as of now.
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i have the sidi race verts and they are AWESOME. I've beaten the shit ouf of them and they have taken it great. Fit awesome right out of the box, though not great for walking around in much they feel outstanding on the bike. A bit on the pricey side but its the one item of gear that I would do over again in a second.

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I am a third one to give the thumbs up for the Sidi Race Vert's. I have broken each ankle twice with my first set of boots which where Alpinstar GP pro's. Broke both at the same time racing at Daytona, I highsided in the international horseshoe. No protection at all. Then I bought the Sidi's when they first came out and since then I have crashed a couple of times racing and have not had any soreness from a crash to my ankles. Trust me they are worth there weight in gold!!! Gloves... I like anything with hard knuckles. Alpinstars, technic, ect. Hope this helps.
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Those boots that you have link us to are not the ones. Do not get them. You need the race vertabrea. It has a hard plastic spine to them!!!
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Man this is wierd I post after all of you guys and my posts are in the middle of the thread. They should be after Chills and shadrach's links post? Wierd
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Steve, the time stamp has everything messed up. The world has become topsy-turvy!

Never a bad time to climb... unless the weather is really horrible, and then you climb inside!

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thanks for the info so far, looks like I'll be picking up a pair of the sidi race verts. I'll have to start checking the gloves mentioned for fit and feel, Joe Rocket speedmaster probably. Right now I'm planning on getting the Joe Rocket GPX one piece suit, any comments on construction/quality of the suit? Thanks

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Another vote for Sidi Race Verts, similar story as Steve(G2G) I have a broken right ankle and wanted the best protection. Have the Sidi's have crashed twice this year, nothing too spectacular, but the one was a pretty decent lowside on that bad ankle, no soreness or anything. Definitely worth the money.
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I would stay away from Joe Rocket gear. I have seen to many of their suits fail in minor get offs and gloves fall apart after a season of use with no crashes on them. Look at Teknics middle class suits or Alpinestars they are much better quality and not much more.

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I've got a Joe Rocket 2 piece Speedmaster suit and it held up very well after 2 high-sides at BHF, and many many low sides at the Oval.

I've seen Teknic suits fall apart after low speed low sides.

I guess it just depends on how you crash.

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I got some Alpinestars S-MX boots for cheap in eBay for $140 shipped or so.

For gloves, I got some Alpinestars SP-1 too. $89, carbon knucles and kevlar all around. It goes all the way up to the wrist.

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check out Oxtar boots..i got em and i love em

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I've got the Sidi Vertebra 2 boots as well and love em.... I've crashed tested em once but I didn't really go down on my feet much so I don't know if that counts but they held up pretty well...

I'd say if you can afford it though, check out the new Sidi Vertigo Corsa boots, they look like they will provide excellent protection, even more than the current Vertebra race boot. At $375 they sure as hell are not cheap but if you think about it, a set of tires costs nearly as much and it's just something that you might regret if you don't splurge on. Hell, I may even sell my Vertebra 2's and get the Vertigo Corsas.

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man....decisions, decisions. Its tough to be safe on a budget, LOL. thanks guys, keep it comin, educate me

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I second the Sidi Race Verts as the best pair of boots. I've crashed in mine and beat them up pretty good, and they are still as good as new.... except for a few knicks. Sidi just came out with a new top of the line pair of boots, I forget exactly what they are called, but you can find them in Sport Rider.

As for gloves, I suggest something like Joe Rocket Speedmaster (which is what I have), Alpinestars GP gloves, or Teknic Speedstar.

I know you said you don't want to spend a whole lot of money, but you seriously don't want to skimp when it comes to protective gear. The old adage "you get what you pay for" holds quite true for this stuff. You can go bargain basement, but it won't hold up nearly as well in a crash.

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Here's what I've got and am happy with. I did a LOT of research and decided to go with names with Sidi, Held, Alpinestars, etc....

Boots:
http://www.newenough.com/sidi_vertebra_2_air_page.htm

Gloves:
http://www.newenough.com/held_ninja_glove_page.htm

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oh yeah, I just love these things. all worn down in some places but still work and when the worn down parts fail I'll just replace them! that's the beauty of these boots(outside of the on-bike comfort).

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Good pic, Chris. Another good thing about those boots is if you mess a part up you can order replacements. Like the silver spine or the toe sliders.

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Good pic, Chris. Another good thing about those boots is if you mess a part up you can order replacements. Like the silver spine or the toe sliders.
didnt i just say that!



the parts last quite a bit of abuse before they NEED replacing too. Look at my toe sliders and ankle hinge.

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Yeah the only problem is if you let it go too long you have to just ride them until you grind through the bolt. I wasn't paying that close of attention and my right toe slider is ground down past the head for the bolt that holds it on, so I can't get anything on there to remove the bolt. So I'll just have to keep grinding it down until the head of the bolt sheers off, and the slider just falls off.

Hopefully it's during practice that would suck to get black flagged for a toe slider that they mistake as part of my bike.
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didnt i just say that!


Oops, yes you did. Its been a long week.


I have a question for my fellow Race Vert owners: I need to replace one of the silver spine things, but the bolt heads are messed up.... from a low side, so you can guess what they look like. Is there anyway to get them off?

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I have a question for my fellow Race Vert owners: I need to replace one of the silver spine things, but the bolt heads are messed up.... from a low side, so you can guess what they look like. Is there anyway to get them off?
A Drill and easy-out bolt extractor will do it.

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There is a new sidi coming out called vertigo crosa.

check this out.
http://www.azsbk.com/sidi-vertigo-corsa-.html

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use a dremmel

we use to get that problem on ski boots just take a dremmel
and cut a straight line across and use a flat blade it is eaiser then a drill and you wont have to replace the t-nut in the boot.

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Well, I may be the outsider here, but I sent my Sidi Race Verts back. They were simply too narrow to be comfortable at all. I also didn't like the hard sole. My feet slipped around on the pegs too much.

I've got a pair of Alpinestars SMX Plus and love them. Very comfy, plenty of grip, and have protected me well during my tumbles.

For gloves I have GP-Plus. At $160 they aren't cheap, but you only get one set of hands. Kangaroo leather in the palms has proved to have good feel and crash resistance.

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I've got a set of alpinestar supertechs

they are a bit more of a pain to put on, but have very good safety features.

http://www.alpinestars.com/_lp/moto_boots_road.htm
there is a pdf file there you can download.
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+FEATURES. The biomechanically designed inner structure combined with the protective outer provides superior energy absorption. INSIDE STRUCTURE. Based on racer requests, the inside structure of the SUPERTECH provides biomechanical foot movement for better control, a torsion bar for ankle support and a double hinge in the ball of the foot that replicates the profile of the foot for increased feeling of the brake pedal and shifter. The inside structure is also removable for easy cleaning and/or replacement. HIGH IMPACT PLASTIC STRUCTURE. Every part of the boot skeleton is injected with high impact resistant PA66 carbon fiber reinforcements. LEG AND FOOT PROTECTION AND FITTING. Shin, heel, ankles, toes and the external side of the foot are protected by the inside structure. Gel padding protects the heel and ankle areas and a breathable lining reduces perspiration and the buildup of heat. Kevlar® speed laces provide the inner structure with a precise fit. OPENING/CLOSURE SYSTEM. The rear entry opening provides an aerodynamic profile and allows for easy entry and exit. OUTSIDE STRUCTURE. Aerodynamic design features safety developed streamlined protection for less friction in slides. FRONT SHIN PLATE. Streamlined and aerodynamic plate is injected with high modulus thermoplastic polyurethane (PU) and protects the entire shin and calf areas.. HEEL COUNTER. Wide and ventilated heel counter for increased protection. Internal shock absorbing material dissipates impact energy before it reaches the inside heel structure. Replaceable PTFE coated aluminum sliders are positioned in the back and external section of the heel to allow the boot to slide and absorb shocks during falls. SOLE. Brand new sole has been designed for improved feeling between the rider's foot and the pegs of the motorcycle.

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