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post #1 of 24 (permalink) Old 09-06-2004, 11:43 PM Thread Starter
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I love that photo. Hmmm which bike isn't liek the others?

I can;t beleive Biaggi thought he could sneak in under Caperossi that late in a corner. What a bone headed move. Then he's actually blaming Caperossi for the incident claiming he took an unusally wide line.... umm ya... duh, he just got passed by Rossi, so now he's setting up wide for a good drive out of the next corner to set-up ROssi for a pass in the following turn.

Given Caperossi did turn in somewhat abruptly... but there was still no way Biaggi could squeeze in there. Biaggi wasn;t even alongside him by the turn in point..os there's no way he could claim he was going ot make a pass. HE just committeed to a pass that didn't exist.

Although what goes around, comes around. I remember Caperossi making a similar move on I believe Alex Barros or Olivier Jacque 2 years ago when they were both on 2 strokes. Caperossi took out the other rider when he was unable to get the bike stoppped in time.
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IT BIAGGI FAULT. Rider in front can't see the bike behind.

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Biaggi was nuts for trying to sneal in there....he screwed the turn up, it was all his fault. He wound up taking poor Capirossi out.
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looked to me like Capriossi just ended up where Biaggi wasn't expecting him to be after he got passed by Rossi. Unfortunate racing incident but Capirossi has done the same thing to others on more than just one occasion. Didn't Capirossi win the 250GP championship by purposely t boning and taking Harada out? I believe so.

nismoo... Biaggi fault eh? Lets see how quick you'll be to blame everyone but yourself if you ever crash because someone in front of you changed his lines or checked up in a corner.
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looked to me like Capriossi just ended up where Biaggi wasn't expecting him to be after he got passed by Rossi. Unfortunate racing incident but Capirossi has done the same thing to others on more than just one occasion. Didn't Capirossi win the 250GP championship by purposely t boning and taking Harada out? I believe so.

nismoo... Biaggi fault eh? Lets see how quick you'll be to blame everyone but yourself if you ever crash because someone in front of you changed his lines or checked up in a corner.
Leave it to Brian, to jump to Biaggi's defense. C'mon man fan or not, Biaggi wasn't even attempting to make that turn. I mean watch the video again and again, if Capirossi wasn't there Biaggi would've just rode straight off the track. He wasn't even turning the bike in.

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Leave it to Brian, to jump to Biaggi's defense. C'mon man fan or not, Biaggi wasn't even attempting to make that turn. I mean watch the video again and again, if Capirossi wasn't there Biaggi would've just rode straight off the track. He wasn't even turning the bike in.

Oh and I blame you for my crash in the LWGP race, I knew you were behind me.
Capirossi is a jackass and that's that! Yep it's my fault you crashed!
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nismoo... Biaggi fault eh? Lets see how quick you'll be to blame everyone but yourself if you ever crash because someone in front of you changed his lines or checked up in a corner.
I personally crashed once at Blackhawk before T2. Can you imagine how?. I got bumped off trying to pass after exiting T1.

Did I blame him? "No" I picked the wrong time to pass. But "Yes", I crashed because of him.

Biaggi said Capriossi was taking unusual line. It seemed to me like Biaggi were more outside that Capriosssi. Why didn't Biaggi take rossi line?

Well, from my point of view, I'm still saying Biaggi fault.
If this were Rossi and Barros, I MIGHT blame Barros also. Cause I'm rossi fan.

I'm not a racer myself, just a trackday rider. So, at my skill level, that was how I look at the incident.

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Capirossi is a jackass and that's that!
Regardless of whether or not that is true, what does that have to do with Biaggi plowing into him, with no chance of making the corner? [instigation is great]
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Biaggi is a jackass! He's the biggest asswipe on the MotoGP circuit. I was just reading in RRW how the other rider feel about him, like when he took out Neil Hodgeson by deciding to pit at the last minute.

Biaggi is a whiny baby who can't stand it that Rossi is kicking his ass AGAIN while riding an "inferior" bike so he takes his frustrations out on other riders.

I'm surpirsed road racing isn't more popular, Americans love this kind of drama.

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Well, from my point of view, I'm still saying Biaggi fault.


you're probably right but Capirossi is still a jackass.
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Regardless of whether or not that is true, what does that have to do with Biaggi plowing into him, with no chance of making the corner? [instigation is great]
listen here jackass! Hey atleast Biaggi wouldn't have crashed if he didn't have Capirossi to crash into.
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Biaggi is a jackass! He's the biggest asswipe on the MotoGP circuit. I was just reading in RRW how the other rider feel about him, like when he took out Neil Hodgeson by deciding to pit at the last minute.

Biaggi is a whiny baby who can't stand it that Rossi is kicking his ass AGAIN while riding an "inferior" bike so he takes his frustrations out on other riders.

I'm surpirsed road racing isn't more popular, Americans love this kind of drama.
no.. Kurtis Roberts is the biggest asswipe on the MotoGP circuit.
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Capirossi is a jackass. Biaggi is the man. Big mistake on the corner but Capirossi is way out on the line and I can see Biaggi complaining about that.

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Personally I really like Capirossi, I mean after all he did just lend a huge helping hadn to Rossi for the championship.

Oh wait and what about his riding too, I mean the guy starts from like 13th leads the race, get's into this whole mess, comes back on the track dead last and finished something like 5th or 6th?

How come Biaggi couldn't get back in the race? He didn't drink his milk and couldn't pick up his Honda without the help of about 5 corner workers?



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Let's see now...Capirossi is wide of the race line and yet Biaggi can't make a pass. If Biaggi hits his braking point, he turns in under Cap and completes the pass.

Instead, Biaggi is staring at Rossi's tailpipe while riding WFO past his brake marker. He'd have ridden straight off the track, had Capirossi not been there.

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AWESOME, I'm pretty sure this thread has set a new record for use of the word "jackass"! woohoo!








biaggi is a jackass though.

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TO Biggi's defense... if you look at the helicopter camera replay... youy can see that Caperossi's line was very wide and then he turned in very sharply... again, I think he did this to set up Rossi for the next corner to get a better drive. Unusual lines like that are very common when passing is occuring in the esses.

But yes...Biaggi is still a jackass and made a bone headed move.


Metaphorically... in Summary:

Biaggi was banging on the door like a jackass....Caperossi opened the door and then slammed it shut right in Biaggi's face.... but the door bounced off jackass's nose and hit Caperossi in the face.
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its the passer not the passee that is responsable for a clean pass.

jackass is his worst own enemy. He has alot of skill no doubt, but when he has to perform he cant. at this point i think no matter how close he is the the title if he cant win he will just lay the bike down on its side and blame a dove for craping in his path.

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Biaggi is cool.

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its the passer not the passee that is responsable for a clean pass.

jackass is his worst own enemy. He has alot of skill no doubt, but when he has to perform he cant. at this point i think no matter how close he is the the title if he cant win he will just lay the bike down on its side and blame a dove for craping in his path.
So what do you think of Colin Edwards and Nicky Hayden?
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So what do you think of Colin Edwards and Nicky Hayden?

They are Americans, so they are supposed to act like that.

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So what do you think of Colin Edwards and Nicky Hayden?
I dont have any opinions of Edwards i dont see him much, except his last podium. So i cant say anything bad or good about him.

Nicky.... That poor fellow is strugglin, he really is. Again no doubt he has termendious skill (they all do) but he really needs to get on the ball and find his place in the pack. its seems like his riding is so speradic as far as his starts go. its sad to see that he is not consistant in the field. once he is moving he is usually in the middle of the pack and works his way up to the front of the middle pack. He looks like he is forcing the bike around the track trying to outride the bike and in the end the bike is going to win (IE he crashes or withdraws) He has made some great strides to take a couple of podiums, but if you go back and look at those races in which he did win alot of the better guys either crashed out or withdrew kinda defaulting him to a podium finish. Do i think he is a contender? deffinetly not right now. at this point he is a middle of the pack type of guy. mabey he is haveing a real hard time getting what he needs out of his crew or mabey its his contract he is thinking about more but it just seems his body language when rideing is just so tense and not relaxed and fluid.

as far as calling names i only know what i see on tv and in interviews that i have read and he seems like a relativly humble guy. everyone is allowed to be cocky or a jerk once in a while im not unrealistic. but biaggi is over the top. its one thing to be compedative, its completely another to be over compedtive.
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