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post #1 of 24 (permalink) Old 10-29-2004, 10:30 AM Thread Starter
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Help! Last minute second thoughts!

Hey Guys,

All the sudden I'm undecided.

I'm all set to pick up a 2001 Honda F4i 600cc track bike with all the mods and extras, etc. I plan to pick it up tomorrow. Decision was made for the 600cc bike cause I am just getting started at the track and don't plan to race anytime soon, just track days and working on my cornering skills and speed.

Then today, out of no where, I get an email from the seller of one of the other bikes I was looking at early on in my search and he is offering me a really good price on his 2002 Honda RC51 (1000cc V-Twin) with all the mods and extras. The bike is really sharp and I have always liked the RC51. It's a little more than the F4i, but not much and it is in a little better shape cosmetically. Both are perfect mechanically.

HELP! Tell me I am making the right choice going with the F4i! Tell me I won't regret getting the "smaller" bike for the track! I need to hear it!

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post #2 of 24 (permalink) Old 10-29-2004, 10:33 AM
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i'd tell ya to get an sv. so you know which i'd choose out of the f4i and RC(hint: small is good for skill building).

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DONT DO IT, the f4i is a much better first track bike!!!! you will progress much faster on it then the RC

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Go for the 600. But an pimped out RC would be pretty smooth at the track. Maybe that should be for future plans. Do yourself a favor, start out on the 600.

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V-twin allows a lot of room for mistakes and you would appreciate the torque, they are very forgivin 600 maybe be smaller, however, not that much slower at your level.
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Get the F4i as a first trackbike. I started with my 9R and I wish I would have started with a smaller bike. Like Jim said, its much better for skill building and you're not relying on raw HP to get your times low.

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Thanks for the encouragement on the F4i guys, I am trying to be disciplined here as I know I am a horsepower FREAK.

I really want to learn as quickly as possible.

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Brian, you suck!

Thanks for the encouragement on the F4i guys, I am trying to be disciplined here as I know I am a horsepower FREAK.

I really want to learn as quickly as possible.

You've been riding a long time. Buy what you like. You most likely would learn quicker on the 600 but since you've been riding so long I bet you'll still pick things up pretty quick on the RC

Oh and btw I want to stress I wouldn't be making that recommendation if you didn't have experience and maturity

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Oh and btw I want to stress I wouldn't be making that recommendation if you didn't have experience and maturity
Thanks for the vote of confidence!

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Thanks for the vote of confidence!
no problem. I started on an fz600 on the street moved up to gsxr 750 did some drag racing and then bought an R1. Only after the R1 did I do a trackday. My avatar is the 2nd trackday ever. I think I learned just fine.

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The power delivery on a twin...blah blah blah. You know it's different - don't need to be at "screaming" rpms to be in the "powerband" on a twin... gear selection is less critical and you will shift less often. Both the F4i and the Arsey would require setup adjustments to accomodate your weight/riding style. Do you like twins? Then buy the twin (again, an SV would get my vote... "less is more"). Do you like the inline 4? Then a 600 is the better choice for you.

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The power delivery on a twin...blah blah blah. You know it's different - don't need to be at "screaming" rpms to be in the "powerband" on a twin... gear selection is less critical and you will shift less often. Both the F4i and the Arsey would require setup adjustments to accomodate your weight/riding style. Do you like twins? Then buy the twin (again, an SV would get my vote... "less is more"). Do you like the inline 4? Then a 600 is the better choice for you.
All the twins I have owned have been underpowered cruisers so it is hard for me to really judge a V-Twin sportbike vs Inline 4 sportbike. The only sportbikes I have owned have been inline 4.

Dealing with the extra weight of the RC51 while learning is my main concern.

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Go with the f4i!

That bike is dime a dozen and parts are so easily readily availible its sickening.

Just remember nomatter which you select its still JUST a honda.
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Go with the f4i!

That bike is dime a dozen and parts are so easily readily availible its sickening.

Just remember nomatter which you select its still JUST a honda.
Thanks for the advice, Irish.

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Oh and bite me you Honda-hater!
Oh dude dont be so hatin! Suzuki is definitly KNOWN to be a superior machine!

Seriously though i would go with the f4i just for replacement parts availiblity
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Oh dude dont be so hatin! Suzuki is definitly KNOWN to be a superior machine!

Seriously though i would go with the f4i just for replacement parts availiblity
Did my first few track days on a TLS 1000 Less shifting,lets you think bout other stuff.Tuff call
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go for the SV. LOL. I've been racing a couple years now and I'm not progressing nearly as fast as all my friends who started and lightweight bikes. So, this year the R6 is for sale and I'm buying a 125 GP bike. My good friend Lee Davis started last year(2003)on a TL1000, I walked him on a F2, the bike just scared him, 3 races into the season he bought a SV, 2 races later he was kicking my a*s on the smaller bike, buy the end of the season he was winning races. Then this past(2004) year he won a championship! Mean while I'm still finishing middle of the pack. Do you want to learn to be fast or do you want to look cool going slow?

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Go with the 600

It sounds like you are just starting out totally for the money and the avaiable parts out there, you cant go wrong, then if ya like it and do well, you will be able to turn that 600 around and get SV or something else after you prove your skills to your self.

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Thanks for all the encouragement fellas!

I went and got the F4i this past Saturday. I obviously haven't ridden it much yet but I did terrorize my neighborhood a little on Saturday night with it! I'll post some pics here in a few days.

Thanks again for all the advice guys! I'm stoked and can't wait to do some track days with you guys next season...

Now, I gotta find me leathers...

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Well I'll still chime in here for what its worth...I've been out of town for a couple weeks.

You obviously know about my track F4i, but I also rode my 2002 RC51 on the track. I like my F4i alot, but man the RC was sooooo much fun even in stock form. Smooth, wide, and strong power band...very flickable for a physically large bike. I was seriously considering making it my track bike, but it was just too dam mint to do so.

The RC is not a beginner bike by any stretch, so you made the right decision with the F4i. You just bought the wrong F4i! Mine is so much better!
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The RC is not a beginner bike by any stretch, so you made the right decision with the F4i. You just bought the wrong F4i! Mine is so much better!


Cool, Kruz. I've always loved the RC51 and it's good to hear it is fun on the track...maybe in a year or two I can grow into the RC.

By the way, I'm sure your F4i is awesome...just a little out of price range right now. If anybody needs a track bike give a shout out to Kruz!

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