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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 04-18-2005, 07:49 PM Thread Starter
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Weighting the Outside Peg

Hey Ken - here's a thread on weighting the inside/outside peg

http://www.nesba.com/TrackTalk/bb/Fo...ML/001349.html

I tend to agree with weighting the outside - but I have not been able to do it yet !!??


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I've been taught(Schwantz school) to weight the outside and basically push down as much as you can on the peg. This helps to keep as much weight on the outside which improves traction by pushing the bike down not sideways and it also helps standing the bike up exiting the corner allowing more throttle to the rear and earlier in the corner.
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The outside peg is going to supply more downward force than the inside peg. The inside peg is more apt to push the bike out from under you. Just look at the angles if you draw lines from the pegs through the tire's contact patch while leaned over...
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Weight on the outside peg, leg locked into the tank, puts me in a position where I could take my hands of the bar and not fall of the bike. This keeps the weight off the bars, arms relaxed, making it easier to read the feed back coming in off the front tire.

All your weight on the inside peg will be pushing the bike out from under you and since you are already leaning into the inside peg make it harder to save/control a slide.

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post #2 of 9 (permalink) Old 04-18-2005, 08:10 PM
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i am gonna read that, thanks for any info you find, but now i am confused, as i was told to weight the inside while countersteering to flick that bitch in, and then weight the outside to pull it back up faster.

ahh here goes the "he said she said tips"


p.s. the guy is like 10 seconds faster then me that gave me that tip.



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I weight the outside peg, it just feels right. There is pressure being applied by the inside foot but I have conciously noticed that I put much more on the outside.

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ok i am doing wev searchs that looks like a good source of info.

after 9 sites i found this to be a good one
http://www.sportrider.com/ride/146_9910_star/

ill save you the trouble is reading threw it.




Pridmore answered questions to start our next lecture, then introduced his (and his father's) theory of lower-body steering. While not decrementing the importance of countersteering, we were encouraged to keep an open mind and at least attempt body steering in our next outing. I rode the next session trying the different techniques Pridmore had suggested--weighting the inside peg and keeping my upper body relaxed and off to the inside of the turn--and once again ended up chasing Holst around. I was having trouble with applying my weight to the pegs and shifting at the same time, and I mentioned this to Holst when we stopped for a debriefing. He recommended different techniques, such as changing my shift points or using the inside of my foot and pushing into the footpeg bracket rather than on the peg.

Lance Holst explains various lines for a series of turns during our introduction to the Pahrump course.

I brought up my problem in the following lecture and Pridmore pointed out that other changes in style may be required to use body steering properly. I was also instructed to try using my inner legs and knees to move the bike, as opposed to just my feet.

I was a little confused following the lecture--I could not fathom a way to use body steering to my advantage--but I was determined to try, as this is the meat of Pridmore's teachings. Besides, how can such a fast guy be wrong? We had one final riding session before lunch. I spent the first half trying a combination of weighting the pegs with my toes, when I could, and pushing against the tank with my knee to turn the bike. I was surprised to find everything had clicked and I was tossing the ZX-7 around like a toy in the transitions. Wow, I had learned something!



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well my eyes hurt..lol

it sounds like weighting the inside peg is the way to go, i am gonna work with that and pushing on the tank versus ancoring the tank next time i go out, and then try weighting the outside for the hell of it.

i gotta tell you, i think i do this already but NOT enough.

i remember once last year coming back up out of T1 at blackhawks, and my outside foot came off as soon as it did i wasnt coming up as fast, AND it felt as the pressure once it flicked off was great.

so it seems i am doing that on the up but dont know about the IN.

so lets see if it works FASTER.



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Here's a thread I started a few years ago on this same topic. . .

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