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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old 06-29-2005, 03:15 PM Thread Starter
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I am not sure if i am even posting this on the right board, but my wife and i are newer riders and intereted in a "beginers track day". do these even exist and where can i get more info about this....

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welcome to the club, and yes NESBA.Com

there also a sponsor, also we give FREE track days away when i hold a raffle for EACH track day in the midwest.

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Welcome to the board, and like the others said, you've found the right place.

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NESBA is a top-notch organization for track days. They have a beginners group, and you can sign up to ride for free for 2 sessions to try it out. NESBA Control Riders are pretty much instructors and they will give you great advice and help if you hook up with one.

My recommendation as always though is to go to Sportbike Track Time first. Their beginner group is not just a track day, but also includes a full day of classroom instruction between the first 5 sessions (thats almost 2.5 hours of instruction time) and on track drills. The last 2 sessions are more or less free for all and feel a lot like NESBA. Plus they are speed limited the first 5 session by the control riders, so it is much much less intimidating than NESBA if you are very nervous about track riding. With NESBA, it is much better if you have experience (even one day), because some NESBA beginners are pretty darn fast. I'd do STT, and then come back to NESBA and then ride with whichever org you want (or both, I ride with both and love them both)

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Welcome to the board! Nesba is a great way to start. I've heard that Sportbike Track Time is good for beginners also. The important thing is to just get out there.
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I am not sure if i am even posting this on the right board, but my wife and i are newer riders and intereted in a "beginers track day". do these even exist and where can i get more info about this....

thanks

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Check out NESBA, look at the BHF, PUTNAM, AUTOBAUHN track days..... Lots of the guys here go and are racers and great help when it comes to new track riders..... Ask is all you need to do.......

Go and see one weekend, then sign up and see how you like it......

Check out for when "Ken" ODY founding father puts on a clinic......


No doubt once you go you will be hooked......

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Life's Journey Is Not To Arrive At The Grave Safely In A Well Preserved Body, But Rather To Skid In Sideways, Totally Worn Out, Shouting "HOLY SHIT... What A Ride!"

All you have to do is follow three simple rules. One, never under estimate your opponent (mentality). Expect the unexpected (could work out in your favor). Two, take it outside(or to a table). Never start anything inside the Bar unless it's absolutely necessary. And three, be nice.



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I'm definitely with kimvgt on this one... the STT novice class is definitely a way more comprehensive intro to the track experience. I'm not knocking Nesba in any way here, as I'll elaborate in a minute. It's just that with STT, they start with the absolute basics, put you in appropriate groups WITHIN the Novice group and provide structured classroom sessions and rider drills which progress throughout the day. It's practically a trackday school, and the instructors are absolutely terrific. Having said that, one of the only drawbacks I can see to their method is that doing the novice class more than once might be monotonous for some, but again, you can always move up to a faster group within the novice group.

Now, as to Nesba, a few thoughts. First, the intro group is a great deal, seeing as how it's free and all. The problem is that you run concurrently with the Beginner group, which can get kind of hairy. First of all, there is a wiiiide range of rider talent and ability in the B group, coupled with a pretty high track density for the intermingled sessions. Thus, it can be a fairly intimidating environment for the newbie rider. Once again, I'm not slamming Nesba here, they definitely do the best they can with this situation. Second, with this less structured method, some riders get in waaaaayy over their head, endangering themselves and others. (I have to admit, I was, at various times, definitely guilty of the former and under suspicion for the latter, so I'm no saint here.) However, one of the great things about NESBA is that they tend to be quite a bit more stringent about letting people advance to, well, more advanced groups. Their Intermediate group is much more tightly focused in terms of rider ability, and you can pretty much be confident that you can work on your lap times as hard as you want without too much worry that another rider will take you out - it can still happen, but it's less likely. In fact, other organizations "I" groups tend to be a LOT like NESBA'S "B" group. Having said all that, the control riders (CR's) at Nesba will definitely take time to work with you, show you lines, critique your riding, etc., it's just not as structured, nor will you be able to work as closely with them throughout the day. Again, they are a terrific group of guys, the organizations are just structured differently.

So, in a nutshell, my humble advice? Do an intro group w/Nesba, then do a Novice group or 2 with STT, and then go from there. Whatever you do, I would in no way advise signing up in the I group with Nesba until you have a few days under your belt, unless you are VERY comfortable out there. (Incidentally, you have the choice of initially signing up as either a B or an I in Nesba; if you sign up as a B, you have to be "bumped" or evaluated by a CR, to progress to the I group.) OK. Got all that? Oh, and one other thing: be very careful. This pasttime is EXTREMELY addictive; as I like to say, "Track rhymes with Crack". Not particularly clever, but as close to an absolute truth as you'll ever get. Have Fun!
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I'm definitely with kimvgt on this one... the STT novice class is definitely a way more comprehensive intro to the track experience. I'm not knocking Nesba in any way here, as I'll elaborate in a minute. It's just that with STT, they start with the absolute basics, put you in appropriate groups WITHIN the Novice group and provide structured classroom sessions and rider drills which progress throughout the day. It's practically a trackday school, and the instructors are absolutely terrific. Having said that, one of the only drawbacks I can see to their method is that doing the novice class more than once might be monotonous for some, but again, you can always move up to a faster group within the novice group.

Now, as to Nesba, a few thoughts. First, the intro group is a great deal, seeing as how it's free and all. The problem is that you run concurrently with the Beginner group, which can get kind of hairy. First of all, there is a wiiiide range of rider talent and ability in the B group, coupled with a pretty high track density for the intermingled sessions. Thus, it can be a fairly intimidating environment for the newbie rider. Once again, I'm not slamming Nesba here, they definitely do the best they can with this situation. Second, with this less structured method, some riders get in waaaaayy over their head, endangering themselves and others. (I have to admit, I was, at various times, definitely guilty of the former and under suspicion for the latter, so I'm no saint here.) However, one of the great things about NESBA is that they tend to be quite a bit more stringent about letting people advance to, well, more advanced groups. Their Intermediate grtoup is much more tightly focused in terms of rider ability, and you can pretty much be confidant that you can work on your lap times as hard as you want without too much worry that another rider will take you out - it can still happen, but it's less likely. In fact, other organizations "I" groups tend to be a LOT like NESBA'S "B" group. Having said all that, the control riders (CR's) at Nesba will definitely take time to work with you, show you lines, critique your riding, etc., it's just not as structured, nor will you be able to work as closely with them throughout the day. Again, they are a terrific group of guys, the organizations are just structured differently.

So, in a nutshell, my humble advice? Do an intro group w/Nesba, then do a Novice group or 2 with STT, and then go from there. Whatever you do, I would in no way advise signing up in the I group with Nesba until you have a few days under your belt, unless you are VERY comfortable out there. (Incidentally, you have the choice of initially signing up as either a B or an I in Nesba; if you sign up as a B, you have to be "bumped" or evaluated by a CR, to progress to the I group.) OK. Got all that? Oh, and one other thing: be very careful. This pasttime is EXTREMELY addictive; as I like to say, "Track rhymes with Crack". Not particularly clever, but as close to an absolute truth as you'll ever get. Have Fun!
Well said Farmboy, I will digress & agree...... What ever you decide, take it slow and ensure, that it is what you want to do, cause (like crack) once you get hooked, you will be all in!!!

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thank for all the info guys.....even though i have only one post, i am on the site daily, reading and learning....so thanks again, hopefully i will get to meet some of you guys in the near future
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Some sarcasim, but all in good family fun......
Ive never been on the track either, and after meeting and riding with some of the guys/gals here I am planning on doing it next year....I cant wait.

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DO IT! You'll never be the same! As a novice rider (2 yrs) ,I did an STT day at Autobahn, & have 4 more days already scheduled. It is unbelievably fun & addictive, & you'll be surprised at your & your bike's capabilities.It's impossible to descibe, you just have to see for yourself. I highly recommend STT,as they will take you from the beginning & have great instructors who are on the track with you at every session. You can then move up in the beginner's group, which is subdivided into 6 groups, depending on your comfort level.
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