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post #1 of 24 (permalink) Old 11-01-2005, 09:43 AM Thread Starter
 
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Can not believe they are not going to race Superbike.
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Yep, that blows. And to NOT give Jason DiSalvo a crack at Mat? Thats crazy.

But, Ben Bostrom is BACK, Neil Hodgson is back for Season #2 and Ben Spies is back. So, my money is that "anyone but mat" might win this year. Never count mat out, true, but at least this year, its not going to be such a yawner!

And, isn't Kawi back in Sbike too? That should make things interesting . . . .
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The AMA classes have gotten waaaay out of hand. Supersport and Superstock should be where the privateers and even the Factories have somewht equal equipment.

Im glad to see Yamaha getting into FX with some big name riders. This is where the factories should be focusing their efforts, FX and Superbike, not Supersport and Superbike. Privateeers and satellite teams just don't have the resources to compete on a consistent basis. I can't blame Yamaha for not wanting to go up agaisnt MLadin, Spies, and Yates in Superbike.
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EBoz not on a superbike = sucky fo sho
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EBoz not on a superbike = sucky fo sho
+1 What is he doing next year? I haven't seen anything yet. His website hasn't been updated to reflect a move.

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Hey grover, if you clicked the link supplied above, you'd have read the following:
"Finally, Yamaha is pleased to welcome the charismatic Eric Bostrom, who will round out the Yamaha squad competing in both the Formula Extreme and Superstock classes. "I just saw the new bikes and they are awesome." Said Bostrom. " I feel great and Yamaha has already made me feel so much a part of their family. I just can't wait to start riding,"

just a little more effort would have given you the answers . . . . .
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Yep, no Yamaha in SBK sucks, especially now that Kawasaki is running SBK. One other issue is that I believe that just when Yamaha is getting into FX the Honda factory is pulling out of FX. Anyone have confirmation on that?
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Oops, I try not to click on links while at work.

Anyways, I think the factories need to abandon at least one class to leave to satellite and privateer efforts. Honda did FX simply because they couldn't make a bike capable of competing with Kawi and Yamaha in Supersport. Superstock has some great racing but the R1-LE will change the class, forcing privateers to double their bike purchase cost just to be competitive. And you know the others will follow suit by 2007.

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" I feel great and Yamaha has already made me feel so much a part of their family. "
In other words, Yamaha is paying him plenty. Probably tons more than any privateer superbike team could offer. But hopefully he went with Yamaha after getting some inside info on their plans to join superbike in another year or two.
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Seems like E Boz took a step backwards from Ducati to Yamaha, but at least he's in a 4 banger now.

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Seems like E Boz took a step backwards from Ducati to Yamaha, but at least he's in a 4 banger now.
He turned down the offer from Kawi to race superstock when he moved to Ducati. Now he's there anyways. Redduck is probably right though. It's most likely in his contract that he gets first dibs at a factory superbike when/if it comes out in 2007. The superstock class is more competitive anyways.

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speaking of stepping backwards, how about Eric's brother, Ben bostrom coming BACK to AMA after his weak world SBK efforts? Do I sense a family pattern here?
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speaking of stepping backwards, how about Eric's brother, Ben bostrom coming BACK to AMA after his weak world SBK efforts? Do I sense a family pattern here?
He was also quoted in a magazine article last year trashing the racing in AMA, saying he would pretty much rather be anywere other than AMA. His main issue with AMA was grid size and dealing with backmarkers. Maybe a season of being a backmarker changed his mind.
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He was also quoted in a magazine article last year trashing the racing in AMA, saying he would pretty much rather be anywere other than AMA. His main issue with AMA was grid size and dealing with backmarkers. Maybe a season of being a backmarker changed his mind.
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Next year Ben will do nothing, AGAIN
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Yeah, see also, Mike Hale, Larry Pegram, etc etc etc
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Yeah, see also, Mike Hale, Larry Pegram, etc etc etc
Ouch- you've got a point there. Seems as though the AMA grid is filled out somewhat by a middle group of pro's making a living. They can't all win, but it seems like the series would be better served by some highly motivated, talented, fresh riders.
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he was sure there would be great racing in the other classes and he was sad to be missing it. aka superbike. but I think he ducati did not have the power to dethrone mat, hey also dont forget about jason pridmore on the team jordan suzuki he will be a contender for sure.
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Anyways, I think the factories need to abandon at least one class to leave to satellite and privateer efforts. Honda did FX simply because they couldn't make a bike capable of competing with Kawi and Yamaha in Supersport. Superstock has some great racing but the R1-LE will change the class, forcing privateers to double their bike purchase cost just to be competitive. And you know the others will follow suit by 2007.

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The AMA should have only 2 classes, Superbike and Supersport. There should never be a only privateer type class. What will it prove ? If they are going to keep the 4 classes they need to tighten up the times so there isn't such a disparity between and the slowest guys.

The R1-Le has no advantage over a GSXR1000 or ZX10r. They all have slipper clutches , nobody runs a stock shock anyway , adding ohlins , showa, or k tech cartridges makes the front ends all about the same. Once they are setup properly you couldn't tell the difference.The wheels are no lighter on the R1 than on the other makes.

To have a competitive supersport or superstock bike your going to spend between $20,000 to $25,000. Then you have to maintain it for the year.
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Superstock has some great racing but the R1-LE will change the class, forcing privateers to double their bike purchase cost just to be competitive.
Because of the wheels? I can't find the rules online, but you have to use the stock wheels in Supersport? Besides, the LE wheels are probably forged aluminum rather than magnesium, but I'm guessing. Aluminum isn't that big of a weight different.

And the suspension? Again, I don't know how to lookup the rules nor do I really want to. But racers have always been able to change the rear shock and the internals--Ohlins internals--in the front forks.

So I don't follow all this talk about the LE being some huge gain. Feel free to set me straight.
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The other problem in the AMA is lack of quality riders available. Even with the amount of teams losing support in 2006 there still isn't enough fast guys to choose from. That is why you see a bunch of recycled guys.
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Honda is not pulling out of FX. After Daytona Miguel and Jake won't be riding them. Honda is turning over the FX to Erion and possibly 1 other team. So you will have Josh Hayes and Aaron Gobert riding them , 2 very capable guys
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Besides, the LE wheels are probably forged aluminum rather than magnesium, but I'm guessing. Aluminum isn't that big of a weight different.
Correct. The LE has forged aluminum, not mag, and saves about 1 lbs over the "other" stock cast aluminum wheels.

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