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What 1pc Leathers with Neck Protectors, would you choose?

Just curious, I'm thinking of replacing my Tecnik for next season. I want a 1pc, with a neck protector. So what would you guys/gals suggest?
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Syed Syed Syed Syed Syed Syed.

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Syed Syed Syed Syed Syed Syed.


Oh.... did I mention, Syed Leathers? Take it from one who has a tendency to fall off her bike a lot.

It's all about the quality of the leather and the padding, the stitching, the fit. Takes about 6 weeks from the time you order.

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I'd say go custom if you can. Seems like the basic custom suits are comparable in price to a quality off the rack suit.

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Syed Syed Syed Syed Syed Syed.


Syed Syed Syed Syed Syed Syed.


Oh.... did I mention, Syed Leathers? Take it from one who has a tendency to fall off her bike a lot.

It's all about the quality of the leather and the padding, the stitching, the fit. Takes about 6 weeks from the time you order.
So do you suggest Syed leathers

I'm looking for leathers too and I WILL need them custom fitted.

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I don't see any option on Syed's site for a neck protector. Do they offer it and just don't list it?
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You might have to give them a call. If you talk to Brian, tell him I said "hi" (called him the other day about sending my suit to be tidied up for next year).

I'm sure they offer it as an option (Anna has one on her suit).

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I don't see any option on Syed's site for a neck protector. Do they offer it and just don't list it?
Yeah, I saw the neck protector as an option (pictured in one of the drawings, it was item 15). Only problem was, as Dave says, it's not listed in the options.

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Dave, do you mean the speed hump thingy? That is more of aerodynamic feature than a neck protector. I see where you might compare it a neck protector a football player would wear to keep his head and helemt from snapping back.

Anyway...the Joe Rocket Speedmaster has it...I have the two-piece and like it very much. Best value IMHO.
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Yeah, the little hump on the back is just for looks. Aerodynamics was the initial reason, but, according to the data that came from Buell's wind tunnel tests, they actually ruin the aerodynamics, along with knee pucks.

Vanson. I've been down more than you guys, and probably faster. I've had four sets of leathers since 1992. All still exist, one set I sold for good money, one set is my current set, one set is my spare set for the rain now (the green ones). The other set went down at 130MPH the first weekend out. Still have them, and I lent them out for the season this year. Hard to find a reason to sell them.

As for Joe Rocket...

the leathers that the big money Joe Rocket guys are wearing...they are not Joe Rocket leathers.

The Dainese, Spidi, Alpinestar, etc. leathers...the leather is just fashion weight. They will rip and come apart.

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Vanson suits are among the best - they are also the most expensive. One could make the argument "you get what you pay for". On the other hand, lots of other "fast" guys are wearing Barnacle Bill, Syed or Taichi.

Regardless of what suit you buy, keep this in mind (credit to Alexa Kreuger):

...Look for quality constuction. you do not want a single layer of top stitching joining that precious leather between you and the pavement. Unfortunately, many brands are jobbing out the work to overseas jobshops, so this type of "seam" is more common. You can and will pay a high price for poor quality construction.
*important*All seams in impact areas should be double stitched, ideally, a conventional seam that is top stitched. some brands do two rows of top stitching aprox. 1/4 inch apart. That is acceptable, but not ideal, as they should be repaired asap after crashing.

...Don't fall for gimmicks. All of those fancy kevlar and carbon fiber bumps cannot be easily repaired... The Kevlar stretch panels are great, just make sure that they don't appear in an area that is likely to take aabuse. It does not resist abraision as well as leather.

...Get leathers that fit. A no brainer, right? Too tight and you can't throw your leg over the bike, too loose, and you can get a "snake bite". Think tearing of flesh, imagine they are stitching up that same flesh, from the inside out. Yummy.

...Consider your climate and constitution. If you overheat easily, go for leathers with plenty of venting. Thinner leather is not necessarily weaker leather. It's all in the way that the leather is cut and the subsequent constuction is performed. Heavy leather is great if you can stand it on a really "warm" race day. It will take the abuse of repeated crashing.

...Look for good armour, and sewn in padding: think impact areas, think sliding. Elbows and knees might come to mind, but hips, shoulders and collar bones need protection as well.

Just some "food for thought".

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Yes, but since I've been around the race track quite a few times, I've seen so many poor suits. Makes you fell pretty good when you see what Vanson's get put through. You can actually buy the same thing that I wear. I have had helmet companies supply me with special production helmets that were not what they sold to the public. There is a lot of stuff out there like that.

As for Vanson's being the most expensive? I don't know about that.

I saw a set of off the rack Alpinestars for over $1100. I know you can buy a Vanson suit for less that that. I'm sure you can buy a cheaper set on close out from Parts Unlimited for less than that, but what are you getting at that point.

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I second that. I love Dainese stuff.

Plus you can get it form the UK for half the price.

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Where can I find information about this "Speed Hump"? I thought that it was to keep your neck from going back too far because it would catch the bottom of your helmet. I could really care less about areodynamics, because I'm not fast enough for it to make a difference. I'm merely looking for protection, and I want the best protection I can get. I don't skimp on cash when it comes to things that protect my frequently crahsing ass.
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The only information I can provide is what I saw over time. In 1985, Wayne Gardner tested some strap on thing to improve aerodynamics. Eventually, Dainese began introducting some leathers with a little bump on the back in the late eighty's.

Was always talked about as aerodynamics. As for keeping your helmet from going backwards, well, then the hump would need to be stationary. It would only be stationary as long as your neck never moved.

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Well, for what its worth ill add in what I found when I got my t-age suit and the speed hump you guys are talking about.

1 the speed hump on the T-AGE is pretty dense, it feels like a hard compressible foam in there, as far as crashing with it on, yes I feel it would soak up a lot of the impact from what ever hitting me in that spot versus not having it there at all.

2. aerodynamics i do all kinda highspeed runs and the first time i wore it and went out hauling ass, i did notice, and 120mpr and up, it did seem to buffer my head a bit more in less movement, you know how you get that little head shakes from side to side, when high triple digits are going, well with the suit on it seemed to be a touch less. so I guess it does work alittle.

these are my finding with that speed hump on the street


on the track, the only place i really notice it is on the stright away of course, and it doesnt make you go faster
as far as crashing on the track with a speed hump, like i said it does soak up some shock, and something is better then nothing.



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Strange on new enough they claim it as a neck protector. I'm not thinking of the protection it might offer from an impact to that area, but more of a stop for your helmet if it had a sudded jolt backwards. Anywho, I don't know just saw this and was curious apparently though it isn't what it's designed for. So since it's for aerodynamics I don't need it. If what I buy has it great if not no big deal. Thanks for the suggestions guys/gals. I'll be shopping around plus the motorcycle show will be coming before you know it, so I'll check some things out there too.

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The neck protector is an additional $50 on a Syed suit.

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Where can I find information about this "Speed Hump"? I thought that it was to keep your neck from going back too far because it would catch the bottom of your helmet.
I've seen other "speed humps" and they look so much smaller than mine. I'm not sure how they would work if at all. Mine does really work and Syed calls it a "neck protector" not a "speed hump". It is like a huge pillow on my back, my head and neck could not snap back since there is so much padding there. This is the largest one that I have seen on any suit so far.
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I'm looking at the position of the hump in that last picture... if your neck bent far enough back where your head would touch, it would already be broken. Although I can see where it might help absorb impact if you landed on your back/shoulders.

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I'm looking at the position of the hump in that last picture... if your neck bent far enough back where your head would touch, it would already be broken. Although I can see where it might help absorb impact if you landed on your back/shoulders.
With a helmet on, I can touch the hump just by tilting my head back a little, but it does not allow me to put my head back further than that, therefore in an accident it would prevent your neck from snapping, also the back protector helps.

Without a helmet, I can not touch the hump at all with my head.
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Gotcha. Helmet does add a couple inches.

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Anna i GUARANTY I COULD SNAP YOUR NECK, just from nailing you head back so hard.
SORRY that neck protector/speed hump, will not protect you from getting your neck snapped in an accident.(if the type of accident was with your head being knocked side ways or back.)

(not trying to be mean or anything just wanted to make sure you understand you are under the wrong impression trust me)



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