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Freddie Spencer Review

Back, yep, I bit the big one, signed up for the 3-Day Pro School at Freddie Spencer's High Performance Riding School.

I don't know how much value you will find this, as I am a newbie to the track, but I have been doing sports, coaching and learning for about 35 years now, and I must tell you, this is one of the best run schools with the highest quality people and skillsets that I have run across a variety of other sports. Is it the best school for Road Racing and Street Riding? I couldn't tell you since I haven't been to the other ones. But for a destination event, I don't think that this can be beat.

I suppose it all depends on your perspective. Wanna be coached by some of the best in the world? Wanna know EVERYTHING you do wrong? Wanna work your body and your brain hard? Wanna run drills over and over? Wanna ride second seat around a track with the 3-time world champion himself? Well, then Freddie Spencer's school is the one for you.

Rules are simple - if you wanna try Freddie's. Check what you know at the door. Open your mind, listen, and try to do things his way. You might be amazed at the skills that the top riders in the world use. Some of it is most likely opposite everything you read and have been told... By the way, expect to be humbled as well. Nick, Jeff, Kent and Freddie are FAAAAST!!!

I'll add more details if any of you care.

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By the way, next school is January 19-20. I am heading back... cause not only did I have fun... but I learned exactly how much help I need and who I think can provide it.

Thanks Marshall for recommending the school. It far exceeded my expectations.

Gotta head out to a party....

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Ok guys, anyone interested in going to the school, next Pro School dates are January 19-20.

So far, the following ARE going:

Ron Hix (RonHix)
Brian Wink (WINK)
Marshall Skloss (Sklossmonster)

Tentative (probably):
Dave Jelinek (AdrenalinJunkie)

Thinking about it:
Will Neumann

February school is already sold out. If anyone from here is interested, do it with us. It would be a blast to hit the school together and then be riding on the track regularly together. It would give us all a chance to kind of help each other as well as keep the reminders and the accountability going to improve our riding skills on the track days.

I haven't had a chance to type up my notes from the school yet, but hope to get to it later in the week. TONS of information, so I need to boil it down to the simpler stuff to post.

Post up if you might wanna join us, it could be a CLSB/NESBA Midwest class if we want!

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I was thinking about taking it and probably going to. ...... but it's big $$
Robbie (Jensen) and Larry (Denning) are taking it. So if they think they can benefit from it, I think all of us can benefit from it...lol
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Ok guys, take good notes! I will be hitting all of you up for tips and riding analysis when the new track season starts. I hope the rest of you going in January have a great time too and learn a bunch.
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We have received the enrollment information for Ron Hix and will process it as soon as possible.
Thank you for signing up with Freddie Spencer's High Performance Riding School. In a few seconds, you'll be forwarded to our student survey. Please take a moment to fill in this form. The information will help us serve you better.

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Marshall registered today as well. SO... How about it Mr. Ortega?

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Wink,

Is the Pro School in January the next step above what you took last week, or the same material? Looking at their website, it seems slanted toward raceers.

It's difficult to tell if the January class would be beyond my current skills. Can you remind me how many trackdays you've been to?

What's airfare and hotel running you guys? Normally I wouldn't worry about the costs, but I'm coming off a spendy vacation with the wife and I need new leathers/enclosed trailer/new camera for '06!

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Same class, just the two day version.

I ran some laps with you at Putnam Bro, you are ready for the Pro class.

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Man I would love to go to that, but there is no way I can afford it. that is big cash to go riding for two days.




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Chris,

The class is a two day course and is essentially the same curriculum as the 3 day course, minus extra track time and the dirt riding.

In essence, you run through drills, laps, class time, drills, laps, class time, drills, laps, class time for two days. Each day you are video taped once, and there is a video review session of all the clas members. The goal of course, would be to change significanlty between the two days, or at the very least, be able to recognize body position, apex, etc... You will be sent a DVD of all of the riders videos so that you can recognize and analyze your riding and others, as well as look back and review yours in the future. By the way, the video analysis will also include "Good" examples from the instructors riding as well. Great tool!

There was a NESBA "I" guy (John Gervase) from the Chicago area last week when I was there and he improved dramatically. I think it also helped his confidence and I know it improved his speed and comfort significantly. So are you ready for it? Yes, I have seen you ride and you are ready, and I am sure that you will get a ton out of it.

Back to your question about me. How many track days have I had? Three weekends. One into day at Autobahn North, then one weekend at Autobahn South, Putnam, and RoadAtlanta. Like I said in my first post in this thread, I am a newbie to the track.

Understand that the drills and laps are for everyone, the coaching is one on one. In other words, the feedback that you get is about your specific form, your line, your braking and accleration... etc... So, the class works as well for a national champion and for you in the same class. We had a few national champions in the class that I was in.

Airfare is best with Southwest, it ran me about $200 on the internet special, but can be up to $289 I think without planning ahead. As far as lodging, the school has a deal with the Orleans hotel where they ask all the students to stay for $40/night.

IF you do go, BE SURE to join Honda Riding Club of America for $39.95. It saves you $229.50 OFF of the class fee (10%) so it is well worth it.

Join at http://hrca.honda.com or if you wanna go straight to the sign up page go to https://hrca.honda.com/membership/re...=enroll&bhcp=1 If you want a referral member, use my member number 300014396, I have no clue what good it does, but it asks.

Hope you can make it, we are gonna have a blast out there!

Post up if you have any more quesitons.

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There are a bunch of us going at the end of March ( 30/31 )for a "Spring-Tune-Up".

This will be our second time to Spencer, the school is the best in the business.

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Tony......

This is not a "riding" school ..... if you want that , see Mr. Schwantz.

THis is a Roadracer "boot-camp" kind of experience. THey will tear your riding style down to basics and help you reconstruct it. If you are a well-evolved rider expect it to slow you down for a while as you re-learn all the stuff you have been habitually doing wrong all this time.

Once reprogrammed you will be a faster, more competent and safer at speed then you were beore.

If you are only looking for "track time" in the off season this school provides
few clear laps and few lapping sessions.

The drills are invaluable.

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Once reprogrammed you will be a faster, more competent and safer at speed then you were beore.



The drills are invaluable.

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I'm a little more patient. For that money, I'll do another year of track days to pick up a couple of seconds or more at every track I run. Granted, my seconds are not like Ortega seconds. But I will be loving every minute of my learning curve!
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For less than twenty five bucks you can get Total Control, a book by Lee Parks. It gives a bunch of the core drills from the Spencer school which you can practice in a parking lot and then transfer them to the track.

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I'm a little more patient. For that money, I'll do another year of track days to pick up a couple of seconds or more at every track I run. Granted, my seconds are not like Ortega seconds. But I will be loving every minute of my learning curve!


kruz what do you say? we both pitch in and send him so hopefully he wont be cock blocking us to much on the track next year?



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ill probably do this in 2007 i got way to much stuff on my plate funding and running another business right now.

also too for a referance guys, "throwing 2500.00 away" isnt the word to use when you "investing it" in your skills and your own personal guide to becoming a better performace rider from the best of the best PERIOD!



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I've just about perfected my "pass Zippy" skills. It took a year or so, now Im working on Tom. Do they have counter-parker drills at Spender's school.
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I've just about perfected my "pass Zippy" skills. It took a year or so, now Im working on Tom. Do they have counter-parker drills at Spender's school.
Spender's school! I love that.

You may just have to keep working on those "pass Zippy" skills. I hope to turn the tables this year and prove that I can be as fast as Ron on his new 1000, even without going to Spender's school. Actually, I'd love to go. As far as wasting money, it's all a matter of degree. Even track days aren't exactly a cheap hobby.
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