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post #1 of 28 (permalink) Old 01-27-2006, 07:30 PM Thread Starter
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Anyone have any feedback on SuperDave? Here is the info that I recevied via email and the site... Seems like a good deal for the price...

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Visionsports' Racer University cost is $250. Lunch will be provided. Riders must have a valid competition road racing license and should have a reasonable amount of compentency. This program is valuble to newer competitive road racers and up. Each program is limited to a maxium of twelve riders.

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I was one of "Dave's Kids" for a few years - he taught me a LOT about the importance of setup and helped me to understand how to make sense of what the bike was doing while I was riding. He goes to great lengths to make himself available to his students well after "school" is over to answer questions, provide feedback and challenge your thought process.

If you're going racing, it's money well spent, IMHO.

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Rick Breuer at Learning Curves is great to!!!!! Dave is great at set up and good at teaching where Rick is awesome at schooling and decent at set up. (I know because I've done both their schools!) Both are always around to answer future questions. Check it out ---- http://learningcurves.com/

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Thanks for the help, hoping to do both this summer.


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Rick Breuer at Learning Curves is great to!!!!! Dave is great at set up and good at teaching where Rick is awesome at schooling and decent at set up. (I know because I've done both their schools!) Both are always around to answer future questions. Check it out ---- http://learningcurves.com/
i have done LCR too.. good stuff!!!

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Super Dave is awesome. I am going to take his school in the spring.

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Got an email from him last night... It looks like I'll be doing the same.

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I'll probably be doing one day this riding season with Super Dave. It's money well spent. The advice from him and the instructors is VERY specific and geared toward you. Plan on NOT going 100% for the first couple sessions, they'll be making changes to your bike and riding style that will require you to concentrate and see how the bike reacts, thus slow down a bit. The last couple sessions are balls out, putting the pieces all together.

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Ok so I was thinking of taking a school with the wife. I have a decent amount of experience on the street but my wife has even less. I would say about 2000 miles total on the street. Which school would be best for her. I am just going to tag allong in whatever works best for her. I want to do the school in vegas but that is alot of money. I would like to start smaller and work my way to there. So learning curve or super dave? Or is there other things at blackhawk that i should be considering?

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Ok I was looking at the blackhawkfarms site and I noticed there is also the califonia super bike school..............

Any recommendations? We would really like to do one of these schools

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Heesh - you're the only one that can make an assesment about your (and to some extent your wife's) skillset.

From what I've heard, Super Dave, Learning Curves etc. are geared toward advancing the skills of riders that have already gotten over that initial "oh shit this is a real track!" feeling.

If it were me - you might want to consider a more street-rider oriented class for the first time out. Something like:

NESBA - excellent beginner groups and instruction
Team Chicago - Trackday for street riders is coming up in April
STT - I've heard good things about their programs (never done them)
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Thanks for the feedback Underdog.....

I guess at the same time I want someone to give a little insight on rider positioning as well and entry and exit to corner techniques. Basically I don't want me or my wife to carry any bad habits to the track. Kind of want to start clean. Does any of the ones that you mentioned above give anything significant in the way of instruction?

Or are you saying you recommend first getting out on a track and going from there?

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Thanks for the feedback Underdog.....

I guess at the same time I want someone to give a little insight on rider positioning as well and entry and exit to corner techniques. Basically I don't want me or my wife to carry any bad habits to the track. Kind of want to start clean. Does any of the ones that you mentioned above give anything significant in the way of instruction?

Or are you saying you recommend first getting out on a track and going from there?
I'd shoot for STT novice sessions. Baby steps up, and by the third or fourth session they are cruising faster than 1/2 the intermediates, and in much better control.

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any links on where to sign up for STT?

I was going to recommend STT myself.. I have done their novice course and quite a few int days with them.. My friends and I even bought my brother in law a novice track day for a wedding present..

It's actually just a track day technically and doesnt even cost anything extra.. The school is free (track day is $150-$175 in the area)

Code is a better school to learn to go fast.. but I dont think I'd want to spend 600$ for code to learn the basics when you can do a local track day for a third of that.. Side note.. a lot of what they talk about in the STT class is almost directly out of the code books...

Note: I have done LCR, Code 1 and 2, STT, and a # of track days.. (Did Code first at RA, LCR second at Blackhawk, STT at Autobahn, and Code 2 at Autobahn)

BTW! Why can't we post links in here to STT? Whats that all [email protected]#!

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That's actually how he got the name. He's done his share of falling down and going boom.
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One more thing (as the thread bastardization continues)

NESBA has FREE Intro sessions to go along with their classroom instruction etc. Sometimes you just can't argue with FREE.

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Thanks for the input anyone. Seems like there are alot of options out there.... now i just have to figure out a way to transport two bikes, thinking of picking up a pick up truck. and i need to find leathers. I know we can rent them. But i would rather make sure the wife is comfortable while on the track.

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Team Chicago - Trackday for street riders is coming up in April
Is this the two day event the first weekend of April at Grattan or something else? Is Team Chicago doing the school on Sat, then practice on Sunday in the beginning of April again?

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Is this the two day event the first weekend of April at Grattan or something else? Is Team Chicago doing the school on Sat, then practice on Sunday in the beginning of April again?

sorry for the hijack...
I completely forgot about this, I gotta sign up.

on the actual subject

You will get something from where ever you go

superdave has an intro group
I've attended his intermediate ??? group and between him and his crew they were able to help /reinforce things to work on and fix with my riding.
its a little less formal then some other schools I've been to.
he's really good at bike setup.

For a 1st ride, add me to the group of people that are of the opinion STT has one of the best intro rider programs available.

After that I would go to whichever I didn't choose from the first time.

Nesba is an excellent group of people, if you do chooose this route, Make sure to grab a CR right at the beginning and tell him/her you want to work with them, Carol is awesome, and of course our own Ronhix... and there was a newer CR at autobaun, who was excellent with feedback, those are my personal favorites, but they are all there to help if you ask. but understand they are outnumbered.

Blackhawk can be a little crowded at times. Autobaun and Putnam are very roomy.

I'm a slow guy thats been to a lot of schools over the years, feel free to ask any questions.

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Thanks for the input man. I am leaning towards the STT. But Nesba is sooner. We will have to see when I can get my hands on some leathers and something to transport mine and the wifes bike.

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Nesba is an excellent group of people, if you do chooose this route, Make sure to grab a CR right at the beginning and tell him/her you want to work with them, Carol is awesome, and of course our own Ronhix... and there was a newer CR at autobaun, who was excellent with feedback, those are my personal favorites, but they are all there to help if you ask.
Don't forget Barry!

The CRs all have different ways of saying things and teaching, just like we all have different ways of learning. The key is finding out who's teaching style matches your learning style.

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Blackhawk can be a little crowded at times. Autobaun and Putnam are very roomy.
What he said! Autobahn can get a little on the crowded side, but not like Blackhawk

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Err, yeah, what he said! Just a little slower and a few less schools...
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