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post #1 of 47 (permalink) Old 12-04-2002, 03:36 PM Thread Starter
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Purchasing an enclosed trailer

I'm tired of renting. I received some good news about village ordinances concerning trailer storage on my residential property. Originally thought I could not store a trailer in front of my house under any circumstances. Turns out I can as long as it weighs less than 1500lbs.

This is according to the village manager. It also has to be stored on concrete or asphalt (no grass).

The 1500lb limit concerns me a little. I would probably have to get one of those fancy shmancy all aluminum models. Too bad huh I am looking for a 6x10 or 6x12 with a ramp door.

Does anyone know what a regular steel framed trailer of this size weighs?

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Check this out. Not exactly a trailer and really expensive but it's cool.
http://www.crestwoodrv.com/funmover.htm

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Super Dave could give you some good info...

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The haulmark brocheur I have states the 6x10 junior hauler weight 1580 lbs while the 6x12 weights in at 1780. The 6x13 v-nose trailer weights in at 1700 lbs.

Do you really think if you have a trailer that weighs in at 1580 lbs they will ever tAKE NOTICE? OR EVEN 1700 lbs? I think that ordiance was made to keep people from keeping large motorhomes and such next to the house. I hightly doubt it was meant to keep your 1700 lb cargo trailer from residing with you

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Also you said 1500 lbs to store IN FRONT of the house....here in Hoffman I can't store anything In front of the house "except on the driveway" but sides and back are OK....same thought about not having it on grass. althought any hard surface is OK...brick pavers....even hard packed gravel is OK here.

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John, where your at, I think you'll be fine. Drive around sometime and look at the crap people have around their houses. Your going to have a nice white enclosed trialer, as long as your cool with your neighbors they shouldn't care, heck you could even walk about and chat with them and see if they would mind. I would refrain from plastering tacky vinly shit all over it, just to be nice.
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or pull the tires off...put it on blocks and call it a"non-conforming detached accessory structure" (As defined in the Lombard Village Code) and the only requirment is: In Single Family Residential Districts (R1 and R2), all detached accesory buildings shall be located behind the front wall of the principal building that is nearest to the front lot line.

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My neighbors are cool so I will be fine; I just want to be sure in case I piss one of them off for some reason. If/when they ever challenge the weight I'll remove the remove or something


SuperDave was helping me and I will definitely visit with him again when I am ready.

My driveway is short but 3 wide....so I can put the trailer off to the outside and still get in/out of the garage and still park a car to the inside.
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ohhh here ya go........you could argue this one, your trailer is "innovative landscaping":

155.711 INNOVATIVE LANDSCAPING

Innovative landscape designs encouraged and shall be considered as a positive attribute in connection with any request for a variation from the requirements of this Section.

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I see you found the village website....keep digging.
I was reading it last night and could not find ANYTHING about recreational trailers.
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I see you found the village website....keep digging.
I was reading it last night and could not find ANYTHING about recreational trailers.
holly cow...it's like reading chinese!!!!!! Could they be ANYMORE Vague on things like this????????the only thing that i saw on Recreation vehicles is that they are allowed obstructions but only in the rear..........actually its says recreational equipment......again how vague is that??

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just get one, drill it full of holes to make lighter done.

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Dude they are not gonna bring out the scales and weigh the damn thing on you. Dont be a pnsy and just buy the damn thing.




















Oh yeah, can I borrow it?




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You can borrow for double the average rental rate.....
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Found some more info on Us Cargo and wells cargo trailers...they are much lighter than the haulmarks.....abot 1200 lbs for the 6x12

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1200lbs? that's super light....
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SuperDave was helping me and I will definitely visit with him again when I am ready.
FYI: Super Dave is out of town at the Performance Racing Industry show in Indy until Sunday.
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1200lbs? that's super light....
Yep got the specs right in front of me right now......

Wells cargo 6x12 model Tw121 curb weight 1195

Us Cargo 6x12 model rf6121 curb weight 1180.

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Curb weight is when you roll one wheel onto a scale. Not even close to the gross vehicle weight.

Try stepping on a scale with only one foot.....

BTW, that's how Ken lost his 7lbs.....
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I'm pretty sure curb weight is the automotive equivalent to "Wet weight" on a motorcycle. Not sure why they call it "curb weight"
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Curb weight is when you roll one wheel onto a scale. Not even close to the gross vehicle weight.

Try stepping on a scale with only one foot.....

BTW, that's how Ken lost his 7lbs.....

well they list gross vehciluar weight on those models as 2990.

next line reads Payload capacity 1810.

nowhere in any brocheure are there any differant weight (besides axle weight which is alsways the same as GvWR numbers)

I was always taught that GvWR was the max the thing to weight....ie empty weight plus max cargo equals Gross vehiclar weight.

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Curb weight is when you roll one wheel onto a scale. Not even close to the gross vehicle weight.

Try stepping on a scale with only one foot.....

BTW, that's how Ken lost his 7lbs.....
Actually... let the geek speak ...

Stepping on a scale with one foot should theoretically produce the same weight... because all of your weight is simply being supported and transferred to the leg on the scale. Now if you other leg is on the ground or you're holding onto the side of the bathroom sink, you'll 'weigh' less because your other foot or the sink is supporting the weight. When they roll one wheel over the scale... the other 3 are distributing much of the weight away from that wheel.

I think...
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Mike you are actually right this time

Curb weight is the operational weight of the vehicle

GVWR is the maximum weight for which the vehicle is desgned for.

Good news for me....now I am sure I can have a trailer as long as it is <1500lbs which is easily doable.
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I meant with one foot on the ground.....
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lol, john i would figure a way to get the trailer in the back yard somehow...you got a good size 1. me...if someone stuck and left a trailer in my neighbors driveway year round...around here we call that trailer trash



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I hear ya Ken...I've been thinking about it alot and I'd hate to keep it in the driveway.

People will start thinking they live in LITH

Unfortuntaltey, there is no physical way to get something that big into my back yard because the house and attached garage stretch the entire width of my property. Then I have a 6 ft high fence. My backyard is big. It's hard enough lifting my Jeep hardtop over the fence....I don't think I could lift a trailer Well maybe

I've got a good thing going with the rental place. It would be nice to have my own, but I really don't NEED it.

Unless I come across an irresistable deal, I will probably just continue renting.

Does anyone know how well trailers hold their value? If I spend $3000 on a nice 6x12 enclosed and take care of it, what can I sell it for in 3 years?

Also, is it better to get a enclosed "cargo" instead of a enclosed "motorcycle" version because it has more uses and not as customised as the motorcycle specfic?
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humm, in that case bro, i would keep renting, your getting a sweet deal with that guy!
plus too you got any plans to move and maybe get a 3 car garage? then it would be cool to stuff in there ya know.

how about some storage place near you...maybe it would be dirt cheap to store it somewhere?

just an idea.



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There are no cheap storage places around me....remember I;m centrally located.

Don't get me started on the new house dilema. I would love to get a new house....just want some trees around me.
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