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CCS Middleweight- as crazy as they say?

I really want to get into racing this season. My current track ride is a 749R, which would put me in CCS Middleweight. I've been warned that MW is nuts, that riders in MW can be reckless or even downright malicious. Is there any truth to this? Would I be totally stupid to risk my bike in that type of environment?
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I don't believe that anyone is out there purposely trying to knock you down. It may come off that way due to their aggressiveness. To be honest with you, it's no big deal. All the stupid shit goes within the midpack guys so if you stay clear of them, you should be fine.
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I really want to get into racing this season. My current track ride is a 749R, which would put me in CCS Middleweight. I've been warned that MW is nuts, that riders in MW can be reckless or even downright malicious. Is there any truth to this? Would I be totally stupid to risk my bike in that type of environment?

It's racing bro. It's not a track day anymore. There is a certain amount of track ediquette that is expected. But people aren't out there to just ride around like its an open track day. It's got a bit more seriousness to it. It's a race, people want to win. You will get stuffed into corners, guys will take your line away inches away from you. It's racing. If you're not comfortable with the possability of crashing your bike, then you shouldn't be there.

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It's racing bro. It's not a track day anymore. There is a certain amount of track ediquette that is expected. But people aren't out there to just ride around like its an open track day. It's got a bit more seriousness to it. It's a race, people want to win. You will get stuffed into corners, guys will take your line away inches away from you. It's racing. If you're not comfortable with the possability of crashing your bike, then you shouldn't be there.

Am I rite guys?
I totally understand that. I'm pretty competitive myself, and I don't have a problem with a racing environment. I guess I should formulate the question more specifically: is there substantially more risk in MW than in other classes?
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No one intentionally try to make you crash. The problem is there is such a wide ban of expeirance in the novice ranks and some people ride way above there limits which makes it hairy. LW classes are alot of fun and just as competitve.
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It's racing bro. It's not a track day anymore. There is a certain amount of track ediquette that is expected. But people aren't out there to just ride around like its an open track day. It's got a bit more seriousness to it. It's a race, people want to win. You will get stuffed into corners, guys will take your line away inches away from you. It's racing. If you're not comfortable with the possability of crashing your bike, then you shouldn't be there.

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Yes I have swapped paint with guys even in the rain. When you start racing you get a rude awakening this is not a trackday and just when you thing you have everything under control they bump you to an expert then you are in for another rude awakening. They don't paly around and I am sure it is like that in the AMA ranks also.
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How do GTU and GTO compare to MW as far as grid size and other variables? I'm planning on trying some CCS and maybe WERA races this summer too. Nice avatar btw c5367
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I totally understand that. I'm pretty competitive myself, and I don't have a problem with a racing environment. I guess I should formulate the question more specifically: is there substantially more risk in MW than in other classes?
Yes......they don't call it the "Meatgrinder" class for nothing.

Since your original post says that you are "getting into racing" I will assume you are a Novice - so you should expect huge grid sizes, larger corner speed disparities, creative race lines, 3rd wave heroes etc. in the 600 AM class. A 749R is probably a bad idea for that class - a $3500 used R6/GSXR6 race bike that is already race-prepped is probably a much better choice to start (A used SV650 is probably the best place to start in the LWT classes) . If you really want to race the Duc, consider HW Supersport, Super Twins or Thunderbike wherever your bike is eligible. Keep in mind you may be a bit outgunned in those classes on the 749......or against the newest 600's anyway.

Racing the Duc will be expensive, you will crash.....save the $$$$$ and spend it on tires or track time.

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How do GTU and GTO compare to MW as far as grid size and other variables? I'm planning on trying some CCS and maybe WERA races this summer too. Nice avatar btw c5367
Thanks! that was one of the shots from the last day at BHF. I think I sent you the ones that you were in. The new body work looks great!
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Thanks! that was one of the shots from the last day at BHF. I think I sent you the ones that you were in. The new body work looks great!
Thanks! The bike wasn't looking so hot that day.

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How do GTU and GTO compare to MW as far as grid size and other variables? I'm planning on trying some CCS and maybe WERA races this summer too. Nice avatar btw c5367

think of GTU is a 30 min mw race. Same people same bikes as MW. GTO is usually the same crap except 750's and 1000's are mixed in.
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Yes......they don't call it the "Meatgrinder" class for nothing.

Since your original post says that you are "getting into racing" I will assume you are a Novice - so you should expect huge grid sizes, larger corner speed disparities, creative race lines, 3rd wave heroes etc. in the 600 AM class. A 749R is probably a bad idea for that class - a $3500 used R6/GSXR6 race bike that is already race-prepped is probably a much better choice to start (A used SV650 is probably the best place to start in the LWT classes) . If you really want to race the Duc, consider HW Supersport, Super Twins or Thunderbike wherever your bike is eligible. Keep in mind you may be a bit outgunned in those classes on the 749......or against the newest 600's anyway.

Racing the Duc will be expensive, you will crash.....save the $$$$$ and spend it on tires or track time.

Just my $0.02
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I'll check out the other classes you mentioned. I haven't dyno'd the bike yet, but the full Ti Termi's have shown to be good for 125rwhp on the R's. I kinda like tha idea of being down on power, which'll keep from using it as a crutch and force me to focus on solid technique. Being my first race season, the objective is to get experience and improve my abilities.
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For the price of that 749 you can buy a SV or a used 600, buy spare wheels, spare parts and still have money left over for a few sets of tires, food, entry fees, and beer.

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For the price of that 749 you can buy a SV or a used 600, buy spare wheels, spare parts and still have money left over for a few sets of tires, food, entry fees, and beer.
and then some

I've considered it. For what I've paid for that thing, I could've bought 2 new 600's and race prepped them both, and still had enough for all that stuff.

Yes, I know I'm a dumbass
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I've considered it. For what I've paid for that thing, I could've bought 2 new 600's and race prepped them both, and still had enough for all that stuff.

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Sell that thing before you crash it!
The thought has crossed my mind more than once. I've just put way too much into it, and I love that bike! It's in the shop now gettin resprung for my weight and Termis just got done. I'm goin over to the shop today to hear how she sounds. It sounded awesome even with the stock system.

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The thought has crossed my mind more than once. I've just put way too much into it, and I love that bike! It's in the shop now gettin resprung for my weight and Termis just got done. I'm goin over to the shop today to hear how she sounds. It sounded awesome even with the stock system.

The thing about money, you can't take it with you and you can always make more.
uh oh... it's a racer w/o a budget..
I'm just playin, that is a very nice bike you have and I'd hate to see it look like the before pick of mine. Do those come standard with ohlins shock and forks?
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Pick up a race prepped SV for not much more than the price you paid for your exhaust system and start racing LWT with CCS w/ me, a fellow newbie is always a good thing to have

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Yanno, you can also run in SuperTwins... and you'd be surprised at how competitive a middleweight bike is in the HW classes - well, except for maybe at Road America. At places like Blackhawk, MAM, G-man... it's more about the skill of the rider - and unless you're a damn fast amateur, your horsepower won't matter. Grids in HW are a little smaller, too.

It's worth mentioning again - racing AIN'T a track day. If you're scared of crashing, and not comfortable with being stuffed/sandwiched etc., then you won't be happy out there. I've seen one or two guys do some pretty boneheaded stuff on warm-up laps in an attempt to intimidate other racers (usually beginning amateurs themselves), but the overwhelming majority are a real stand-up bunch of people. While a passionate, devoted bunch of people, the vast majority all have jobs to show up for on Monday morning.

As long as you can keep a cool head under pressure, a lot of spares and some mechanical know-how (or a good crew chief) - and a good bit of disposable income (cuz adrenaline is ten times more addictive than crack!) you'll be fine.

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uh oh... it's a racer w/o a budget..
I'm just playin, that is a very nice bike you have and I'd hate to see it look like the before pick of mine. Do those come standard with ohlins shock and forks?
Yup, Öhlins RT front and back, steering damper, slipper clutch, forged Marchesinis and the engine is different than the standard 749's. Its a wider bore/shorter stroke, Ti con rods and valves.

I've already got a rashed set of bodywork for the track, and the nice set for when I feel like posin'
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Middleweight is nuts! Dangerous even! That's the only class that's almost killed me. . . TWICE! (Ask KBOlsen) Back in '99 I had a nice little "get off" because one guy punted another into me at 140mph at Blackhawk going down the straight! (Uh, who crashes on the straight?!) Two broken elbows a severe concussion and a torn rotator cuff followed by a helicopter ride ruined that season. Surgery and six months of rehab helped, at best.

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MIke the other guy in your T1 crash also got a flight out. Dont remember which one of you got the heli that landed at T1 or the one that landed in T6 where the bambulance took the rider.

MWSS amateur is the preverbial nut fest. My first motorcyce race was in 99 in MWSS. I didnt know any better. Wanted a GS500e or EX500 to race, but a F2 literally fell in my lap already race prepped. All I can say is it can really make you nervous with the different amount of rider skills in a mwss.

Forget running thunderbike with the 749. Its not allowed in thunderbike. You may want to think about middleweight superbike and middleweight GP since those 2 classes arent usually as packed as mwss. But I do agree with running heavyweight supersport if you want to run a supersport. I ran my F2 in HWSS so I can race with Kimmie.

Also something to think of with racing the duc. You have to be sure that you bring enough spares that you possibly think you may need. Ducati's (especially the 749/999 ones) are rare in CCS events. I think theres 1 749/999 model and 3 748/9** ones racing. An advantage in buying a sv is there so many of them racing, that you could borrow a part from another racer no problem.
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Thanks for all the info!

I looked at the rules and it looks like I could ride in GTU, MWSB, MWGP, and Supertwins.
What's the difference between the SS, SB, GP, and GT classes?
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just found this, GT looks like the way to go!
from CCS new racer pamphlet
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CCS GT Classes Offer More Seat Time For Racers

So you’re just getting started in road racing and want to know how to get more “bang” for your buck. the answer is the CCS GT series. These classes are run-what-you-brung races divided into three displacement catagories, (GTL-GTU-GTO) and they run for 25 minutes. (The average sprint race takes 10- 12 minutes.) This gives you the most racing for
the money by giving you nearly twice the racing time that you find in a traditional 14-16 mile sprint race. Some rider prefer the longer distance because it forces them to use more stratagey than an all-out sprint, some just like riding as long as they can at 100%, but most riders just like the fact they have time to improve their skill and the opporutity to over come any ‘mistake” they may make during the longer event. One thing to keep in mind is that in a timed race is that the clock does
not stop under a red-flag, so the nicer you and your fellow comeptitors ride, the more laps you get to cover. So race hard, race smart and enjoy the extra racing mileage fo the CCS GT Series!
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I really want to get into racing this season. My current track ride is a 749R, which would put me in CCS Middleweight. I've been warned that MW is nuts, that riders in MW can be reckless or even downright malicious. Is there any truth to this? Would I be totally stupid to risk my bike in that type of environment?





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I think the problem with middleweight is that many newb racers are people who street ride a 600 and think one day; "Hey, I'm going to go racing". The amount of newbs combined with the power of yesteryears superbikes makes for sloppy possibilites. I never raced middle so I can't say, I was a lightweight racer that is more that enough power to be racing IMHO. I agree that you should not race the Duc, save it for track days and open practice days. Get an SV or a Kaw 650, I'd go with a race prepped SV. Racebikes need to be thought of as disposible.

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