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add it up? expenses

I know all the stuff is adding up fast. Bikes, leathers, trailers, generators, coffey makers, and, and ...... you get the idea.
I am using the denial system I learned from my car friends. Save all your receipts in a folder, but never, ever look at them or total them or allow a significant other to see them.

What system do all of you use?

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I start a file every year and make a habbit of keeping all the receipts.
I've actually added them up one time but decided it was better to just hand them over to the accountant for tax season. Didn't you know this was a business?

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I live check to check mentally with my cash...that way, i try to save x amount of dollars each check, and never get the BIG picture as far as expenses...good thread

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cash or debit card..never by credit card. If I can't pay in cash, I don't go.

I've never totalled it up, but I figure about $400 a race weekend, about $450 for track days to local tracks. I tend to replace a couple pieces of riding gear a year due to wear and tear. This year it looks like leathers, and probably boots as well. Last year I bought a new helmet and trailer.

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Ahh... ummm... don't tell my wife about this thread...



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Yep......everytime I read a thread like this, I remember why I gave up the track for sport touring.......it's so much cheaper to go sport touring on the weekend, than go to the track! I really liked the thread on getting a $1000 generator to power the $200 tire warmers And Jammin is pestering me to go back to the track........I DON'T THINK SO JAY!!!!

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I dunno. Yeah, racing/track days can be quite expensive... but if you can avoid getting caught up in "keeping up with the Joneses", you can keep a lid on things. Fancy trailers, big-dollar generators, climate-controlled canopies... nice but not at all "necessary".

For me, the cost-per-weekend was pretty much the same regardless of whether it was a CCS event or a track day. After the initial investments in protective gear, the motorcycle, and spare parts, the single biggest expenses were track time and tires.

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I dunno. Yeah, racing/track days can be quite expensive... but if you can avoid getting caught up in "keeping up with the Joneses", you can keep a lid on things. Fancy trailers, big-dollar generators, climate-controlled canopies... nice but not at all "necessary".

For me, the cost-per-weekend was pretty much the same regardless of whether it was a CCS event or a track day. After the initial investments in protective gear, the motorcycle, and spare parts, the single biggest expenses were track time and tires.
Kimmie that was easy to do before the internet......ignornance was bliss Now go to any site....track forum......man are these people fast....all deck out like a full blown race team I'm trying to keep Jay under control, he's reading all this ALL over the net, he's single, young, making a ton of money, trying to advise him on what is actually needed and save him some $$$ is an up hill battle.

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I'm kind of young and single...money's ok, but don't you have like 37 bikes

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This is one of the more expensive hobbies out there thats for sure.

No credit card racing is the rule. In a tite squeeze like if I need new tires and I have to run a race I mite have put them on the card before but no more.

Shit adds up. But no matter how much you think you are spending just look around you in the pits at the race track. People are spending more than you. Some people just piss and shit thousand dollar bills.

To run for a regional championship racing CCS between race fees, gate fees, gas money, parts, tires, food, and what ever else I figured on the low side of 15K.

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It is never over when it comes to spending money at the track...... I try not to think about it. But after the initial invenstment it really isn't that bad.

Oh.. .and I like the Ducati Sport Touring guy talking about not over-spending... LOL I have never heard frugal and Ducati rider put together.

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Oh.. .and I like the Ducati Sport Touring guy talking about not over-spending... LOL I have never heard frugal and Ducati rider put together.





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Well... no, less than 37 (11). It's really only 5 real bikes, 4 pocket bikes and 2 Fittys. Although, to put it in perspective, all my bikes add up to less than a couple of stock Harleys. I can't claim poor this year, I have had a very good year. No complaints on this end.

At the moment, I am spending all of my free cash on trailer, trailer gear, and tires for the season. But as mentioned above, all is paid for cash out of bonuses.

Odds are, I'll be selling a couple of 600s in the next month or so.

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Yep......everytime I read a thread like this, I remember why I gave up the track for sport touring.......it's so much cheaper to go sport touring on the weekend, than go to the track! I really liked the thread on getting a $1000 generator to power the $200 tire warmers And Jammin is pestering me to go back to the track........I DON'T THINK SO JAY!!!!
Dont worry buddy, I'm set on doing track days the frugal way Come on, we're tracking the GS500, not the gix Trailer is taken care off, tires on the GS should last longer than a sport bike, so besides catastrophic engine damage, we should be good. Dont be a sissy and get back on the track!!!


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Well... no, less than 37 (11). It's really only 5 real bikes, 4 pocket bikes and 2 Fittys.
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IMHO...NO But the track junkies will say YES

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I dunno. Yeah, racing/track days can be quite expensive... but if you can avoid getting caught up in "keeping up with the Joneses", you can keep a lid on things. Fancy trailers, big-dollar generators, climate-controlled canopies... nice but not at all "necessary".

For me, the cost-per-weekend was pretty much the same regardless of whether it was a CCS event or a track day. After the initial investments in protective gear, the motorcycle, and spare parts, the single biggest expenses were track time and tires.
+1. If it's not absolutely necessary I don't get it.

I have a monthly budget. Basically enough to do one trackday a month. The money that accumulates over the non riding months goes toward tires and what ever else I need. If the budget runs out, I don't go.
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I do it as cheaply as I can, but of course it's still expensive. I'm still running my $200 kit trailer, and lots of takeoffs. I buy tires all winter, look for sales and bargains. I stay at pretty much the cheapest clean hotel I can find when I do weekends. Sometimes I camp at the track, but that's more for fun than cost savings. I tow with my wifes car, a Mercury with a V8, which gets about 28 mpg with the trailer behind it. I buy track days in bulk to get the 15% discount and the free set of tires. I do a lot of weekends to reduce travel time and costs. Still, it's a boatload of money to do 17 days this year.

But, wow, what a season it will be! And we aren't going in dept over it. It's like this great big present I give myself. I'm a lucky man.
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