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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 04-10-2006, 09:18 AM Thread Starter
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Visionsport Racing School/Track Day @ BHF on Wed. (4/12)?

Anyone heading out to BHF this Wed. for the racing schools/track day hosted by Blackhawk? It was tough paying $225 for the school, but the two previous years that I have done it have been well worth it. Super Dave gives immediate feedback on how to improve your riding, relatively small class sizes, and tons of suspension/geometry help to sort out the bike. I wanted to start the season with his input so I could work on them all summer long. He throws a lot at you at one time, but it gives me something to work on/think about for the rest of the year. And I will get my CCS race license if I ever wanted to race.

I was just wondering if anyone else from the board was planning on attending. I think Learning Curves is there on the same day, but that school is with Rick Breur (sp?).
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post #2 of 15 (permalink) Old 04-10-2006, 10:11 AM
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Oh, I didn't even think about the licensing. I thought about it and decided to skip it since I thought it was just a track day, but if I can get my CCS license then I'm definately in if I can get the time off work. It is the Skills & Thrills I class you are talking about right?

I don't think Learning Curves is going to be there, I've been looking at their schedule and the earliest BHF date was in early May. That was the one I was planning to go to, but I might as well just do this one so I can go race on Saturday instead of taking the class then.

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Dang, weather looks good for Wednesday there. I'll be taking the visionsports school this season, early on. He does throw a lot at you, he asks A LOT of questions. He shows/gives you things to work on to go faster, but you might not actually go faster right there. It's tough to go faster when you are practicing new techniques and focusing on things you haven't focused on before.

This is tempting, especially if I manage to get my trailer plates in the next couple days.

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The VRS program will qualify you to purchase a CCS racing license.

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weather dot com says 72 on Wednesday with 20% chance of rain in the morning!

I'm still thinking of going, but was only planning on doing the trackday. Is the price for the school $250??

I hope the trailer has no flats!!!
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post #6 of 15 (permalink) Old 04-10-2006, 12:12 PM Thread Starter
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Yes this is for the Skills & Thrills I class. If you haven't done the class before it costs $250, but if you have it costs $225.
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Alright, I took the plunge, signed up and got the time off work. Missed ya at Putnam so I hope to see ya there this time around

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Cool! Sorry about Putnam, but it was one of those times that I had to put my family first. I'll be at BHF for SURE since I had to drop $225 for it.
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Totally cool, if I had a family I'd put it first too. I'll see ya at Blackhawk and try to find you in the pits tommorow

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post #10 of 15 (permalink) Old 04-12-2006, 09:54 PM Thread Starter
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Had a great time today. Picked up a couple of pointers that transformed my riding and made things much easier on the track. Good meeting up with Ed Moor and Jon Gu. No blazing times to report, but I am taking a lot of positives from this experience for me and my bike setup.
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Care to share those pointers David?
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The key phrase that Super Dave used was, "Stay SCRUNCHED." Basically if you look at any top MotoGP or AMA rider, when they get out of the "bubble" at the end of straights or generally anytime they go into a corner, they never pull their body fully upright. They pull up about 6" and keep their body very close to the gas tank. Hence, they stay "scrunched." Nicky Hayden really demonstrates this scrunched body positioning when you watch him in MotoGP. The idea is to keep your weight over the center of mass of the bike so that it works better instead of shifting it towards the rear by pulling straight up and down out of the bubble. And when you finally enter the corner you naturally hug the tank and lean your body into the turn.

When I applied this technique, I felt like I was more on top of the bike which gave me more control and feel through the corner. On a liter bike like my R1 you can easily let the bike manhandle you and throw you wherever it wants, especially getting on the gas hard when you exit corners. By staying scrunched it was easier to give steering inputs and in the end made riding my superbike much easier than it had ever been before. Funny what just a small change in body positioning can do for your confidence.

He also helped sort out the suspension and some geometry issues that made a world of difference. For the first day out this year, the bike felt really good and worked better than I ever remember it working the last 2 years. I'm sure some of the winter mods helped, but as we all know dropping $$$$ into your bike doesn't necessarily make it better. You have to find the right setup to make it all work right for you.

So at the end of the day, it was $225 well spent.
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David: nice to meet you. We really lucked out weatherwise and it was a great day. Good to see Jon too. I will have fond memories of being hanging with you in the corners just to get smoked on the straight until I drink enough beer to kill those brain cells too.

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Good post David...thanks. I need to lose some gut to be able to scrunch.
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it was nice to meet you david and i am sure we will see you again this year. I just glad i did this at the begining of the season this year because you take in so much information it takes a few days out to get most of what you learned into good practice.
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