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post #1 of 19 (permalink) Old 04-26-2006, 12:07 PM Thread Starter
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Slicks

now that i have the power to mount and balance my own tires.

i'm looking at getting a set of slicks for track days.

i know jack-shit about slicks for bikes or cars that turn for that fact.

dragracing, we can chat-chit.

but can i hear some info about the differant slicks? i know softer is gonna wear faster, etc. But is there anything that is perfered. i would like something that has some life but sticks better than my Meztler M-1's

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You may want to only use DOT race tires instead of slicks. With DOT tires, you have a snowball chance in hell of saving it if there's gravel, sand, or grass at speed. With slicks you are pretty much screwed. If you want to take the bike out a couple days after a track day, you don't NEED to change the tires like you would with slicks.

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From what I've "heard", in order for slicks to stick properly, you have to have some heat in them, so they don't stick as soon as a DOT race tire.

NESBA typically uses the Dunlop 208GPA front and 208JLB rear. I tried a Michelin Power Race - Medium at Road America after I had a flat on my Dunlop, and I was impressed with how well it stuck.

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"Until you're an expert on DOT tires, don't do it." That was the advice I was given and now I'm passing it on to you.

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Right now I'm running 208GP-A front and JLB rear. Barry Dolan ran these last year and was 7+ seconds faster than me everywhere, even with a 20hp disadvantage. Until I can fully utilize these tires, I don't see the need to move up to sticker/costlier tires.

That's just my approach...do as you like.

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I use nothing but slicks so I don't know how a modern DOT is but have a go at it. I've never had a problem with it whether it's cold or hot. I use brand new still shiny slicks to race with and after a semi decent pace on the warm up lap, it's good to go at race pace. I also never really had a problem with it when I run off the track.
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As has been said.......DOT race tires are pretty darn good right now, so they should do just about everything you ask of them. Slicks will last a little longer than the DOTs do - so you may get one more trackday out of each set.
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I ran both last year.... Michelin Slicks and Power Race DOT's.

The difference is miniscule and only noticable at a fast advanced pace.

Not worth it.

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I use nothing but slicks so I don't know how a modern DOT is but have a go at it. I've never had a problem with it whether it's cold or hot. I use brand new still shiny slicks to race with and after a semi decent pace on the warm up lap, it's good to go at race pace. I also never really had a problem with it when I run off the track.
Just curious Rev, but what's your combined rider & bike weight?

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Just curious Rev, but what's your combined rider & bike weight?


Pffft..... what ?? Like 80 Lbs ?

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80lbs? It's about 420lbs.
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But if you can get a good deal on slicks, I would definitely go for it! I've used the Pirelli slicks and loved the grip and how long they lasted.
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But if you can get a good deal on slicks, I would definitely go for it! I've used the Pirelli slicks and loved the grip and how long they lasted.
Most of the TGF guys were running Pirelli slicks last year. We bought race takeoffs, feedback was great and durability was outstanding. Some lasted 5-6 weekends! I swear by them. Brand new, they are too expensive IMO.
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I had the good fortune of picking up the remaining Pirelli DragonSlicks from Kruz when I bought his bike last year. As far as I can tell, they work GREAT!! I had a couple of short off track excursions with them and stayed up right just fine.

It seems that they wear better, get stickier when warm, and allow for a very smooth turn in. This year I am running Dragon Slicks (180s) on my 600s, and Pirelli Super Corsa Pros (190s) on my 1000. The Pros are basically the same tire as the slick at lean angle, there is VERY little difference, if anything, it is a better compound. However, it may be that it is a 1000, but the slicks have held up better for longevity in the past.

We did a group buy on our own this year, and were able to get very good pricing on the Super Corsa Pros. We'll be doing another group buy in the next 2-3 weeks. PM me if anyone is interested.

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But if you can get a good deal on slicks, I would definitely go for it! I've used the Pirelli slicks and loved the grip and how long they lasted.

Sounds like a good idea



Picking up a set of Pirelli slicks thanks to a helpful CLSB member.. they should be on the bike ready to go at BHF

looks like i will be running new Meztler M1's @ Putnam..

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Most of the TGF guys were running Pirelli slicks last year. We bought race takeoffs, feedback was great and durability was outstanding. Some lasted 5-6 weekends! I swear by them. Brand new, they are too expensive IMO.
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208 gp $279 a set and Dunlop slick $369 a set.

I've run both and the slick seem to last longer.

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Stick with the race compound DOT's.

All the fast CCS guys (DanO etc.) run sub 14 and 13 second lap times at Blackhawk on 'em. When you start getting close to those times and you think slicks will help knock off a tenth of a second then start to think about 'em.

The other big positive is that you can sell your take offs for $100 to $200 to a slower/new racer or street squid who wants to like they can really lean it over.

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