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post #1 of 20 (permalink) Old 04-26-2006, 12:59 PM Thread Starter
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Wet trackday

Well looks like my first track day of the year this Saturday is very lokely to turn into my very first wet track day. Any advise?

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Smooth on the throttle and brakes......no abrupt inputs.

Start out in the first session using the "one gear - no brakes" method to get an idea on corner entry speed.

Run one gear higher than normal through the corners until you can gauge the amount of exit throttle you can use.

Rain also usually means your shield will fog up - keep that in mind.
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As Monte said regarding rain riding..

You can brake. You can turn. You can shift. You can get on the gas. Just don't try to do them all at the same time.

As everybody said, be smooth on the gas and easy on the brakes. Abrupt changes, either to gain speed or slow down, will result in record breaking asphalt surfing times.

Or follow Jon's advice Predicting rain can be weird though. It can be pouring 2 miles away, and the track is dry. Not sunshine and 70, but dry nonetheless. And an hour of riding on a track without rain can usually get a really good line through it.

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Slicks are a bad idea for wet conditions.

Wear a rain suit...seriously. Get one of those cheaper suit minus the hood. At least wear something on the upper half ouf your body.

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Personally...... I rarely ride now when the track is wet. ... Damp is OK


People always seems say " you can learn a lot on a wet track" I figure
the thing I am most likely to learn is how to fall daown and I am
already proficient at that.......

FWIW.... I'm with Jon ..... how fast can you sell it ?

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Hey Tom,

I didn't think you fell much at all. Anything recent? I went down for the first time at Road America last week.

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Riding in the rain is a different kind of experience. It's a time when you can focus completely on smoothness without really holding anyone up. It's still fun, but it is a little more tedious and a little more focus is required.
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Riding in the rain is a different kind of experience. It's a time when you can focus completely on smoothness without really holding anyone up. It's still fun, but it is a little more tedious and a little more focus is required.
Yeah, one good thing is that the track WILL clear up (people don't ride) and it will be slower, allowing you to focus on where you are going, versus overall speed. I actually went faster through T7 in the rain while following a CR than I did in the dry.

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Hey Tom,

I didn't think you fell much at all. Anything recent? I went down for the first time at Road America last week.

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As long as we're threadjacking.... .....sorry to hear about your fall zippy, everything OK? what happened? I've always had you pinned as avery FAST but conservative, safe rider. I guess anyone will have a setback no matter how conservative See ya at Putnam?
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Hi Barry,

I fell on my new-to-me 2002 GSXR 750. I am fine. The bike has a small amount of damage, but does need a bit of welding to get it right again!

I was heading into the kink, the slowest part of the track. I overshot my turn-in, probably due to a hopping rear tire, and tried to make it anyway. I'd let off the brakes to settle the rear, then grabbed them again to slow before turning. I was a bit out in the green part of the track, and probably not on the best tires, and I expected more traction than I had. I was trailing some front brake and lost the front.

At least it was on probably the slowest part of the track. Since I'd broken the footpeg mount, I was done for the day. I drove home that night and came back the next day with my 929. After spending the morning playing with shock settings and working to troubleshoot some high speed vibrations, it all settled down and I had a great time chasing Todd around. And getting passed by all the weekend's racers.

Over 350 of those 20 minute sessions on my 929 without incident, and I got less than 3 on my GSXR before pitching it. Oh well, now that I got that overwith, I'm looking forward to the rest of a great season. I really want to get it right this year. I'm looking for some serious seconds this year.

I won't be at Putnam, but will be at Blackhawk for the weekend of 05/13-14/2006. See you there? Have fun at Putnam.

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I have never been to a trackday that has actually let you ride in "rain" conditions. Maybe a little drizzle and definitely a damp track but never if there is too much standing water on the race line. All the nesba events that I have been to that had rain, we would take the cars out on the track and ride the line to dry it out a bit. Diving my suby at Putnam in the wet was very fun.

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It's looking like it should be fine for most of the day Saturday. Sunday will be a problem though.

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50% chance of rain, but I think it'll be ok for most of the day....

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50% chance of rain, but I think it'll be ok for most of the day....

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Let's all sacrafice a small animal tonight in the hopes that it doesn't rain tommorow

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I'll put my rain tires on tonight. That way it won't rain.

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