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post #1 of 34 (permalink) Old 05-03-2006, 10:00 AM Thread Starter
 
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I need some convincing people.

I signed up for a NESBA Intro track day on June 4th at Autobaun. I'm going with a couple of friends that have done track days but are still in the Beginner group. My problem is that I'm kind of nervous about doing it. I've read a lot of the posts here and on sportbikes.net about first time track days. I know that I should ride at my own comfort level and not push myself too much. I just don't know what to expect when I am out on the track. I don't want to feel that I'm holding up others on the track or looking like a complete idiot out there. Am I a fool for trying to do a track day being that I am still wet behind the ears with my riding experience? Please help...thanks!!

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post #2 of 34 (permalink) Old 05-03-2006, 10:05 AM
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Best advice I can give you besides riding advice is to not worry about what other people on the track are doing, don't let your testosterone levels get too high or start competing with people, and hook up with Carol Drucker, she is definately the best control rider to work with when you are completely in the dark.

Oh and if you are worried about holding up people, just don't go full throttle on the straights, everyone behind you who you might be holding up will just breeze by and will very much appreciate it.

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Everyone has felt this way before their first time - Worry not my friend - While I have never done a CCS, NESBA or any other "group sponsored" event, I have been on many a track with others more talented than I (I know, hard to believe right?) and it is fine - Just be alert, ride in control, and let them know it is your first time and all will be good

It is like dropping Acid, if you go into the trip with a negative mindset, you will have a bad trip - If you go into it with a clear head, well shit, trip on brotha, trip on!!!

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Ask for Carol Drucker or find me and I'll introduce you. She is a CR that specializes in first time track folks. Spend a session or two with her and then join the rest of the B group.

You'll be fine! Loose the nerves and relax, you'll have fun. I promise!

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i have not been on the track yet, however. I am hoping to be soon (sometime this year) and the only thing I can tell you is to just relax, and ride your own ride) hook up with a control rider that will teach you the right way to get into the track. don't concetrate on how fast you are, but do concentrate on being smooth, go slow, learn the lines of the track, get used to the track. The intro is just the first two sessions, and I have been told by numerous people that if you do the intro, bring the money to sign up for the rest of the day, because you will be hooked.

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I'm thinking about going out to Blackhawk next weekend to watch and get a feel how things are run on track day. Are the pits open to spectators?
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Uniball,

There is so much that so many could say, but most likely it is all the same core info.

Ride within yourself
Don't push the corners, just take them easy. You can go a little faster at a time, build up smoothly, but not too much your first few times out.
Dress Safely (gauntlets, helmet, riding boots, leathers (one piece preferred)
Pay CLOSE attention in the Beginner's riding meeting.
Ask a CR BEFORE you go out on the track to help you out, and always stop and talk tot he CR after your session.
Follow the CR racing lines that you will be shown
Don't be a "Parker-Screamer" (slow in corners, full throttle on straights) This frustrates those who can out corner you, but can't because you don't let them pass you on the straights, which is the only place passing is allowed in B Group (this will be explained more clearly in the Beginner Meeting)
Just be yourself, don't worry about how you look. Posing is not for the track, self improvement, better riding skills, and great people is what the track is about.
Spend your free time watching, learning, asking questions and helping others.

I started at the second to the last event last year, and I gotta tell you, I was just as nervous as you about my first track day. Here we are at the beginning of this season, and I can't think of any better place to be, thing to do, or people to be with each weekend. You are gonna LOVE IT!! Just give yourself the chance to be relaxed and take it in.

Feel free to track me down, #946, near a Gold Excursion and a white trailer. I'd be happy to help you in any way that I can. For your first time, try to pit with us (or someone you already know) and we can make everything as easy as possible for you.

Good luck and have a blast!

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Ask for Carol Drucker or find me and I'll introduce you. She is a CR that specializes in first time track folks. Spend a session or two with her and then join the rest of the B group.

You'll be fine! Loose the nerves and relax, you'll have fun. I promise!
+1 I spent most of a season with her. She's a teacher so she has WAY more patience than most people. And don't worry about being too slow, I think I was getting lapped twice a session for my first couple days.

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Uniball,

There is a 40 minute beginner rider meeting in the morning that covers everything you need to know about being on the track (flags, passing rules, etc.). So don't worry. Also, get the nesba brochure, it describes what a typical track day consists of and what you should expect. That should calm most of your worries after you know what to expect. NESBA does a good job of preparing you - you just have to listen.

Beginner group always has a big range of riders. Some really really slow, and some really really fast (especially in the morning). Everyone expects that. As long as you don't panic when getting passed, anyone faster than you will simply pass you at the appropriate time - no one will complain.

Also, when you grid to come out onto the track, there are usually 2 lines - a faster line and a slower line (fast guys go first), just line up where you think you belong. There will be lots of other first time riders there, and the NESBA control riders go a good job of finding them and working with them. You will not be in the mix with lots of fast guys. You'll find your spot.

Start slow (1 gear only, no shifting, only use the front brake), and progress as you feel comfortable.

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It is like dropping Acid, if you go into the trip with a negative mindset, you will have a bad trip - If you go into it with a clear head, well shit, trip on brotha, trip on!!!
yes, and make sure you buy cigarrettes before it kicks in so you don't have to be in public laughing your ass off



seriously, the thing about riding on a racetrack is that it's still riding a motorcycle. If you're comfortable riding on the street you'll be surprized at how comfortable you'll be on the track. Listen to the instructors and pay attention to where you are on the track, i.e. left side right side, braking markers, what gear you're in(count out loud in your helmet if you have to).

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Am I a fool for trying to do a track day being that I am still wet behind the ears with my riding experience?
My second time on a sportbike was on the track. At Grattan no less.

I sucked, I held people up, and when they complained, I told them all to go f#ck themselves. ...and that's a direct quote.

There will always be a newbie or 2 or 3 out there, and there's always somebody slower than you. You'll be fine! If not, you can use my above quote.
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I just don't know what to expect when I am out on the track.

Expect to have a blast!

You'll do just fine.

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My second time on a sportbike was on the track. At Grattan no less.

I sucked, I held people up, and when they complained, I told them all to go f#ck themselves. ...and that's a direct quote.

There will always be a newbie or 2 or 3 out there, and there's always somebody slower than you. You'll be fine! If not, you can use my above quote.
Ha ha, that's more like it. If they are so much faster, they should have no problem passing you on the exits of corners. Ride your own ride and don't worry about anyone else. Sure, don't swerve around like a drunken sailor, but aside from that, just try to relax and get a feel for it at your own pace. Even if your own pace is pretty slow. If you are smiling, you're doing it right!
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+1,000,000 on hooking up with Carol... the one thing that she will do is ensure that people pass you in a safe manner. She is the best... I can't scream enough praises of her.

I think we all crapped our pants the first time out, so you are completely normal.... there is no hurry to move up in the groups either, dispite some people's opinion, just do it for you!

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My second time on a sportbike was on the track. At Grattan no less.

I sucked, I held people up, and when they complained, I told them all to go f#ck themselves. ...and that's a direct quote.

There will always be a newbie or 2 or 3 out there, and there's always somebody slower than you. You'll be fine! If not, you can use my above quote.

How do you pronounce #?

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How do you pronounce #?
pound

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"pound"
"hash"
and
"number"

Depends on its use.

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So is the "direct quote" "go fpoundck yourself" or "go fhashck yourself"? Either would not deter many whiners unless stated with alot of conviction!

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Glad to see you are back to normal Eddie, when ya comin back?

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Hey Wink.

2 weeks into healing out of a minimum of 6, so looks like June, assuming the bike repair end of things cooperates. The bone is still shifting around under my shirt so I think I'll neeed the whole time. By the way I am selling advertising space on my bike for a very very reasonable price so let me know!!

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The only thing you need to worry about is how to start robbing banks. What's your style? Shotgun and a ski mask kind or quietly hand the cashier a note saying, "Give me all your money and no one dies today."

I say this because I have yet to talk to anyone after a NESBA day that says, "It was OK, but I think I'll go back to the street." No. Damn near everyone turns into a trackhead from day one. Then you have to contend with reality...money, work, old lady, etc. Start robbing banks and the old lady won't care how much you spend on trackdays and you can tell work to get bent!

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So is the "direct quote" is "go fpoundck yourself" or "go fhashck yourself"? Either would not deter many whiners unless stated with alot of conviction!


Hope you're coming along well. I see your sense of humor has coped with the situation.

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Best advice I can give you besides riding advice is to not worry about what other people on the track are doing, don't let your testosterone levels get too high or start competing with people, and hook up with Carol Drucker, she is definately the best control rider to work with when you are completely in the dark.

Oh and if you are worried about holding up people, just don't go full throttle on the straights, everyone behind you who you might be holding up will just breeze by and will very much appreciate it.

Carol is the shizzz... you'll be fine if you take it slow and listen to her.

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