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post #1 of 29 (permalink) Old 05-11-2006, 10:08 AM Thread Starter
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Bad Day at the Track???

You know you've had a bad day at the race track when they leave your bike at its crashed point until the end of the day. Then to retrieve the motorcycle they use a front end loader with a heavy nylon strap to hoist back over the metal railing.

This crash happened at Grattan last weekend. The guy lowsided on the back side of the track. He got off the bike, and the way the bike crashed it ended up back on its wheels rolling at an alarming rate directly 90 degrees toward the metal railing. When it hit the metal railing the bike launched itself over and there is a mark on the tree 10 feet high.

The front end of the bike is hanging only from cables and brake lines.

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post #2 of 29 (permalink) Old 05-11-2006, 10:26 AM
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who knew buells could even go that fast?
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It's a good day if he walked away.

Please tell me someone got video of that!

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who knew buells could even go that fast?
They can't I know

But seriously, the triple trees are made to snap off so as to save the frame(read gas tank) doesn't get damaged to much

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They can't I know

But seriously, the triple trees are made to snap off so as to save the frame(read gas tank) doesn't get damaged to much
HA HA!!! I think any motorcycles triples will break if it goes head on with a guard rail at 60mph!!!

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HA HA!!! I think any motorcycles triples will break if it goes head on with a guard rail at 60mph!!!

I think you're correct.

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we almost got that on video....just a few seconds later and we would have
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thats why i have always wanted a teather style kill switch.. i come off the bike, it shuts off.. just like a jet ski!

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thats why i have always wanted a teather style kill switch.. i come off the bike, it shuts off.. just like a jet ski!
MB it looks like you are SOL...you need a scope to use one of those.

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thats why i have always wanted a teather style kill switch.. i come off the bike, it shuts off.. just like a jet ski!
It's easy to rig one up on your bike.

The way the dude crashed though it wouldn't have mattered. The bike had so much energy and velocity that after it spit him off, even if the motor was dead when it stood back up it would of kept going on 2 wheels anyway

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Maybe a stupid question???

How would a bike keep going if the engine is killed through a tether/kill switch? If the power is cut and the clutch is out, wouldnt the wheels stop rolling? I guess not, huh?
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How would a bike keep going if the engine is killed through a tether/kill switch? If the power is cut and the clutch is out, wouldnt the wheels stop rolling? I guess not, huh?
You are correct.

The motor had to be still running to keep going like it did.

Unless the bike fell into a false nuetral which is highly unlikely but possible.

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Bad Day at the Track???

Is still better than a good day at work!
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You are correct.

The motor had to be still running to keep going like it did.

Unless the bike fell into a false nuetral which is highly unlikely but possible.
I suggest you try it in your car sometime. Get going 60 or so on a straight, wide, unpopulated road somewhere and just switch off your ignition while in gear. (Manuals only) You should continue rolling without your drive wheels locking up. Your engine braking will be greater than if the engine was still running, but it wont lock up on you.
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And your point is pertaining to????.........

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The cornerworkers at Grattan were telling me a couple years back about a racer who came into 1 with no brakes. There's a mound after the gravel that acts as a ramp. Bike flew a long ways and I guess ended up in the street outside the track? I've seen a few pics like that...

One year at Gateway a guy fell off his bike in the middle of the left-right in the infeild. The bike kept going. I was on the inside of the long right hander when a corner worked yelled. I turned to see this bike heading for us. The bike went between two parked vehicles and then luckily fell over before crossing the track again. Some interesting days at the track...
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And your point is pertaining to????.........
You said the only way it could hit the wall like that is that the motor was running or in neutral. Just pointing out that there isnt that much difference between the ignition being off and being on. The bike is still going to coast. Just used a car as an example because its much safer to do things like that with 4 wheels.
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You said the only way it could hit the wall like that is that the motor was running or in neutral. Just pointing out that there isnt that much difference between the ignition being off and being on. The bike is still going to coast. Just used a car as an example because its much safer to do things like that with 4 wheels.
The bike ghost rode for 200 or more feet and slammed into a metal barrier.

You are saying even if it was in gear it would keep going. He was probably in
3rd or 4th gear.

How is it possible for the motorcycle to keep going at that rate of speed without a rider on it holding the throttle open?

IF you let out of the gas on the bike in 3rd or 4th gear on any bike it immediatly starts to slow down or engine brake.

How did the damn thing go that far with no rider on it if it wasn't in nuetral or wasn''t in a false neutral or didn't have a human holding the throttle open?

I seriously want to know this.

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You said the only way it could hit the wall like that is that the motor was running or in neutral. Just pointing out that there isnt that much difference between the ignition being off and being on. The bike is still going to coast. Just used a car as an example because its much safer to do things like that with 4 wheels.
Guess you've never backed out of the throttle(especially a twin) while on GRASS.......the back wheel WILL lock if it's in gear and the motor is OFF.

What I find most amazing is the bike standing back up after sliding on its side w/o the rider......in the grass.
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Guess you've never backed out of the throttle(especially a twin) while on GRASS.......the back wheel WILL lock if it's in gear and the motor is OFF.

What I find most amazing is the bike standing back up after sliding on its side w/o the rider......in the grass.
I've backed off a twin, just never in grass. Hope I never have to.

I guess I could maybe see it on wet grass. Just trying to point out that there isnt anything in the engine that "locks" up when you turn off the ignition. You just experience the full pumping losses of the engine.

-Edit I have however had my old xs650 (parallel twin) die on me at 60mph or so in gear and the rear didnt lock on pavement, nor was the deceleration exactly startling.

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What? You mean the transmission doesn't fall out the bottom of your bike when your engine dies at speed???

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