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lap-time/tire question

Just a random question: would Pilot Powers or Diablo Corsas on a 749 be sufficient for mid/low :20s BHF? or would that require something more along the lines of a Supercorsa or Power Race?

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Used Pilot Powers last weekend at Blackhawk, 1:23's w/ no sliding or drama that I could feel. I'm counting on them working down into 1:20's, after I get down to that pace I'm going to a stickier tire.

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Pilot Powers will be fine for those times and they last a lot longer than Pilot Power Races too.

I've been running a Pilot Power rear and Pilot Power Race front combo. The rear last a lot longer and the front gives you more stick

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Used Pilot Powers last weekend at Blackhawk.
Rubbish! Regular Pilot powers last a lot longer than Pilot power race tires.

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Rubbish! Regular Pilot powers last a lot longer than Pilot power race tires.
Huh? Where did I say they didn't?

Oh, wait I see... lemme rephrase... "I used Pilot Powers last weekend at BHF and they were good down to 1:23's w/ no drama, and I'm switching to Power Races when I run 1:20's or better for the extra stick."

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Thanks guys! I'm still running the Diablo Corsas on the 749. I read some where that anything under 1:25 might be pushing them, just wanted to check with some y'all that have done it.

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OH!!!! Used Pilot Powers!!!

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Thanks guys! I'm still running the Diablo Corsas on the 749. I read some where that anything under 1:25 might be pushing them, just wanted to check with some y'all that have done it.
If you are second guessing the condition or amount of traction your tires will give you. It's simple, change them. It's not worth getting hurt or wrecking your bike

Regular Pilot Powers are cheep and work great for track day riding.

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If you are second guessing the condition or amount of traction your tires will give you. It's simple, change them. It's not worth getting hurt or wrecking your bike

Regular Pilot Powers are cheep and work great for track day riding.
As long as I keep the pegs off the ground, I have faith in the Corsas so far. They felt surprisingly good at ABN 2 weeks ago, even with the moisture.
At the moment, my PR at BHF is 1:28 on them. The suspension wasn't even close to dialed in, still at the factory settings and it showed on the tires. (they had that weird intemittent shredded thing on the side) Now, i have the suspension set up properly/more experience and feel that sub :25's may be possible. Just wanted to know if they could handle.

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1:25's? Not unless you've ridden 2000 street miles already on them and used them up. Good condition Diablo Corsas should be no problem down to 1:20's or even 18's, and I think they slide fairly predictably too from what I've experienced.

Didn't Dan Ortega pull like 18's on someones street R6 w/ street tires once?

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high performance street tires should be good for high teens without drama. My buddy Sean did 17's on his 636 with the stock tires that came with the bike. They were new but still street tires.
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You can go pretty fast on *street* tires...they are getting so good these days.
I've done1:13.2 at BHF on a set of Pilot Power street tires...done 1:10.7 with Pilot races.
I've done high 15s/low16s with dunlop street tires.
Haven't tried the new pirelli street tire Diablo Corsas but they are on par with the michelies.

so to answer you question...yes they will be fine for that pace.

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You can go pretty fast on *street* tires...they are getting so good these days.
I've done1:13.2 at BHF on a set of Pilot Power street tires...done 1:10.7 with Pilot races.
I've done high 15s with dunlop street tires.
Haven't tried the new pirelli street tire Diablo Corsas but they are on par with the michelies.

so to answer you question...yes they will be fine for that pace.


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I've done1:13.2 at BHF on a set of Pilot Power street tires...done 1:10.7 with Pilot races.
Sweet f'n jesus, how about you add a "go faster" switch to my bike while you got it so I can turn those kinds of times too???

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Sweet f'n jesus, how about you add a "go faster" switch to my bike while you got it so I can turn those kinds of times too???
Ask Dan how many bikes he has wrecked and how many times he has hurt himself to get that fast. There is a price to pay for everything. He has payed quite a bit.

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Ask Dan how many bikes he has wrecked and how many times he has hurt himself to get that fast. There is a price to pay for everything. He has payed quite a bit.
No doubt, but all I'm asking for is for that "pass" button on my bike to work!

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Sweet f'n jesus, how about you add a "go faster" switch to my bike while you got it so I can turn those kinds of times too???

That switch is in between your ears.

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That switch is in between your ears.
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you're also on the wrong bike to be doing that kind of times.... You do a 13 on your SV as is and I'll pay for your season next year.
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That switch is in between your ears.
Damnit! no matter how far I jam my finger in my nose I still can't reach it! Is there a trick or somethin?

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you're also on the wrong bike to be doing that kind of times.... You do a 13 on your SV as is and I'll pay for your season next year.
Notice how he wrote "As is" because Ed Key has done 1:13 on his Superbike SV

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Notice how he wrote "As is" because Ed Key has done 1:13 on his Superbike SV
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I'll be burning goats in sacrafice if I come anywhere near an 18 on the SV or 17's on the 636 by the end of this year...

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Ask Dan how many bikes he has wrecked and how many times he has hurt himself to get that fast. There is a price to pay for everything. He has payed quite a bit.

true but if you're not crashing you're not going fast enough....LOL
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