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Tire Warmer power options

I'm looking into getting a set of tire warmers and I'll need some way to power them. After doing some searching, it looks like a Honda EU2000 generator is the favored option, since it's quiet and light. However, at $1k, its a bit spendy. Cheaper generators are too loud/heavy, and I 'd rather not go that route.
The alternative I came up with is a bit unorthodox, but I think it may work. Hopefully the car electronics guys on the board can help. Would a power inverter work? I've found a few DC-AC inverters that put out enough wattage to power set of warmers and then some. The question I have is: what are the cons to running a setup like this?

Heres a link to one of the inverters
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I myself thought of doing that a few years ago. Whats better running your car/truck all the time or buying a $300.00 generator? I went the generator route.

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Cheaper generators are too loud/heavy, and I 'd rather not go that route.
Hey Rob. We were looking at some big$ to get one big enough to power our trailer and several sets of tire warmers. This spring we decided to go watch the CCC ARSA race at road america for fun and research. There were very few by % of the "quiet" generators and a whole lot of long extension cords to the old fashioned type.

A inverter would be sweet, but you might want to use those $ for other things. (like a track SV)
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Hey Rob. We were looking at some big$ to get one big enough to power our trailer and several sets of tire warmers. This spring we decided to go watch the CCC ARSA race at road america for fun and research. There were very few by % of the "quiet" generators and a whole lot of long extension cords to the old fashioned type.

A inverter would be sweet, but you might want to use those $ for other things. (like a track SV)
BTW how is your front wheel?
The issue I'd have w/ the cheaper generator is mostly size. I can only fit so much into the car, and those things are pretty big. The inverter wouldn't be hard to fit at all, and they're only about $200

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was looking around some more, this one looks like it may work, $400 at the Home Despot
http://www.homedepot.com/prel80/HDUS...gmm.0&MID=9876
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Your link is not to a specific product. I can say we bought a coleman at HD and are happy with it. I would suggest looking for one powered by a Honda or subaru engine, after that there is not a lot difference between any of them in a particular class/type.

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Your link is not to a specific product. I can say we bought a coleman at HD and are happy with it. I would suggest looking for one powered by a Honda or subaru engine, after that there is not a lot difference between any of them in a particular class/type.
That's why I call them Home Despot!! The model I was trying to link to was the Coleman Powermate 1850. Site says it's only 70lbs, and it doesn't look too big.

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Depending on what you need. Cheap and large and loud seems to be the way most people go.

I went with the EU2000i and LOVE it. It is quiet, easy to start, and you can hook it up to another one in parallel to run a whole trailer if you want. Two EU2000 is cheaper than one 4000. So, that gives redundancy and flexibility.

We went with the extra money since we plan on using it to power the air conditioner in the trailer over night. Quiet means better sleep.

But is is a large money jump up.

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I went with the Honda. Quiet is good!

It's only money. You could put a Ducati sticker on it and tell people you paid $2K for it.
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We have the 6250 large and loud colmen. Run a long ext cord and don't know it's there plus runs all day on a tank of gas.

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I went with the Honda. Quiet is good!

It's only money. You could put a Ducati sticker on it and tell people you paid $2K for it.
Don't be hatin!

Wink, do you know of any good deals on the Hondas? Apparently Honda has a thing about posting sub-MSRP prices online so anyone offering a deal won't show up on the web.

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I got mine at Bob-Jo Cycles in Sycamore. I think they gave me 15% off list. It was under $900.00 plus tax.
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Wink, do you know of any good deals on the Hondas? Apparently Honda has a thing about posting sub-MSRP prices online so anyone offering a deal won't show up on the web.
I did a ton of shopping and so did Marshall when he got his. He hada mail order deal which I was able to get matched here in Chicago area. It is in Hanover Park area, Wise Rentals. 800-916-9473

http://www.wisesales.com/HondaGenera...errer=GoogleAW

Do a Google for "Honda generator" and they come up first.

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wink is right the honda generators "EU series" is the way to go if your powering something while you sleep.

me on the other hand i have this load mother fucker of a power plant that i use while the course is open. at the end of the day i drink my beer and i go to a hotel to pick up the local whores.

now if i was sleeping in my trailer or mobile home i would want something QUITE!


now i just hope wink doesnt make me play a joke on him like coming back to the track at 3am and blasting my generator outside his trailer home



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I did a ton of shopping and so did Marshall when he got his. He hada mail order deal which I was able to get matched here in Chicago area. It is in Hanover Park area, Wise Rentals. 800-916-9473

http://www.wisesales.com/HondaGenera...errer=GoogleAW

Do a Google for "Honda generator" and they come up first.
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That's why I call them Home Despot!! The model I was trying to link to was the Coleman Powermate 1850. Site says it's only 70lbs, and it doesn't look too big.
The Coleman is a good generator for the price. I run that same model (borrowed from a buddy) and it is kinda loud, but it works well and easy on gas. Also, it is not very big or heavy.

The unfortunant reality is that there are lots of loud generators at the track, whether yours is quiet or loud really doesn't make much difference.

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The Coleman is a good generator for the price. I run that same model (borrowed from a buddy) and it is kinda loud, but it works well and easy on gas. Also, it is not very big or heavy.

The unfortunant reality is that there are lots of loud generators at the track, whether yours is quiet or loud really doesn't make much difference.
Hmmm. I stopped at Home Despot to take a look at one in person. I think I'd be able to cram it in my car for trackdays, and that is the major sticking point. And for the price, a little extra noise might be bearable. Prolly could mitigate a bit by putting it up in front of the car/trailer and running a longer extension cord.

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The alternative I came up with is a bit unorthodox, but I think it may work. Hopefully the car electronics guys on the board can help. Would a power inverter work? I've found a few DC-AC inverters that put out enough wattage to power set of warmers and then some. The question I have is: what are the cons to running a setup like this?
The biggest con is that you're going to need to pump about 200A into the inverter on the 12V side to get full capacity out. That's some pretty serious and expensive cabling; jumper cables alone probably won't cut it. It also means (as noted above) that you'll need to run the car engine full-time to keep from killing the battery dead.

Now, if you wanted to be really slick and high-tech, you could build this into a box or trailer with a couple of car batteries and a smaller generator (1 kW, say), and run everything that way.

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The biggest con is that you're going to need to pump about 200A into the inverter on the 12V side to get full capacity out. That's some pretty serious and expensive cabling; jumper cables alone probably won't cut it. It also means (as noted above) that you'll need to run the car engine full-time to keep from killing the battery dead.

Now, if you wanted to be really slick and high-tech, you could build this into a box or trailer with a couple of car batteries and a smaller generator (1 kW, say), and run everything that way.

Well that kills that idea Thanks for the info.

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