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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 08-02-2006, 09:52 AM Thread Starter
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knee problems on the track?

Has anyone ever had knee problems while riding on the track? I dunno if it's just my right knee or if it's because most tracks around here are all right turns but my 4th session I can barely put any weight on my right knee.

It's weird because there is no pain, and when I'm walking, running, etc. it doesn't bother me. Just when I'm on the bike with the knee bent and my weight on it. It feels like it's gonna just give out. No swelling either. I picked up a knee brace but it doesn't seem to help
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I had the same problem. My right knee would just hurt a lot. I think it has to do with the body position on the bike. I put a lot of weight in it and I hung off the side a lot. After I started holding my weight more with my outside leg the knee stopped hurting as much.

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I had the same problem, and the same resolution as Chris

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There was a thread on this a while ago, AdrenalinJunkie had the same problem.

The resolution was exercise, combined with holding as much weight with your outside knee and your "core" muscles.

I had chondromalaysia, meniscal tear and a complete ACL replacement at the beginning of this season. With the rehab and the exercises, (combined with the outside knee and core exercises) I don't have any problems at all with my right knee anymore.

Hope that helps, when Dave gets back, perhaps he can point you to that thread.

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ride on the track more...you'll gain so much leg/knee strength it's nuts!!

i was so out of shape last year, and could barely ride an entire session without my knees totally giving out on me. So, this is what i did
1. stretch
2. do squats - lots of them, but stop 3 times throughout the squat and hold it there for 10 seconds. 30%, 60%, 90%, then 100% and nack to 90%, 60%, 30%...by the time you get to the last 30 you're really gonna feel it =)

that helped so much you would not believe! or if you dont have a machine, stand up, then squat done half way and hold it for 30 seconds. do like 30 of them.
I did a search for knee pain.

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I tried to put my weight into my outside leg hooked on the tank but by the time I started trying that it was already pretty late in the day. I'll have to try that from the beginning next time for sure. As for excercise I'm in pretty good shape, that's why I didn't know if it was froms years of abuse on the football field or me not doing something right. I'll be at putnam this weekend and report back afterwards

edit: this only occurs on the track, I routinely do 500 mile days on my 1000rr with no problems.
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I sorta had leg pains too on my inside leg when I first started riding the track. I didn't really consiously do anything to fix it, but it seems like the more I rode, the less I would feel it. I use to not even be able to do the full 7 sessions in fall, now I can do them OK even in the bad heat this summer.

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i had the same problem. i was putting most (if not all my weight) on the inside leg and after 2-3 laps around bhf quad muscles right above the knee were throbbing. after talking to other riders (mikdivad and reverend rice), i switched to putting more pressure on the inner thigh against the tank of the outside leg. that helped a ton.

the rev said he puts zero weight on his inside leg. to quote him, "if someone came up and slapped my inside leg while i was in a lean my foot would come right off the peg".
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edit: this only occurs on the track, I routinely do 500 mile days on my 1000rr with no problems.

I only had the problem on the track, as well. Never on the street. I also punish my knees backpacking and mountaineering and I've never had a problem with them.

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I had chondromalaysia
I think I had that once too. Doctor gave me penicillin and told me to stay away from girls that hang out with EMR.....
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I dunno cause I havent been on the track yet, but I suspect I will have a problem with my left knee. Due to an old hockey injury, I cannot put any wieght on my LEFT knee, so, even in street situations, left turns are painful. Thankfully, there are more rights than lefts on the tracks!

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Leverage is the key thing of what makes knees hurt. There's a classic example of this in working out. You'll see guys who squat or do walking lunges improperly experience some bad knee pains. What improperly means is when your knee crosses over your toe (as rule of thumb). As you squat down or add weight on one leg...the force travels and is distributed more evenly if the knee is directly over the foot. Once you cross that line, there's a great deal more stress on the knee. It is no longer in a position of optimal leverage.

Now, some will say that this is good and teaches your body to better strengthen the knee, but I have not seen much evidence actually happening.
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i had the same problem. i was putting most (if not all my weight) on the inside leg and after 2-3 laps around bhf quad muscles right above the knee were throbbing. after talking to other riders (mikdivad and reverend rice), i switched to putting more pressure on the inner thigh against the tank of the outside leg. that helped a ton.

the rev said he puts zero weight on his inside leg. to quote him, "if someone came up and slapped my inside leg while i was in a lean my foot would come right off the peg".
I've had similiar experience. My knees and quads would be OK, but the tip of the peg was digging into the balls of my feet, which sucked after a few laps.
I've never had knee issues, but I have started trying to lock in more with the outside leg to take some weight off of my inside leg. Stomp Grip helped IMMENSELY. As far as track mods go, best $40 ever spent.
Might help to take some weight of the inside knee so as not to stress it too much.

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